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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 08-03-2024
Another player who has the knack of being on the ground all day and being invisible.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Blue Moon - 08-03-2024
I can't watch it, I can't listen to it and I can't follow it on the internet. I know when push comes to shove, Carlton will lose. We lose because we don't want to win. We have a Club culture of heroic failure. It doesn't matter who the players are, who the coaches are, who the CEO or President is, it doesn't matter who is on the Committee or who is running the Football Department, Carlton will lose and when they are certain of losing they will have a go and get close and when they just fail they will talk about would'ves, could'ves and should'ves. Two seasons ago we just miss out on the finals because of a couple of heart break losses, then last season we are so out of it and then turn it around and make the Preliminary Final, this year we get to the point where we are facing our destiny and we turn it up. They love the supporters loving them but they don't love us back.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Micky0 - 08-03-2024
From the second half that I did see, I thought Kemp played very well. Acres got a lot of it, crippa, George, Walsh were good.
One thing I noticed as well as the lack of shepherding for each other was also the not make space for each other, not running hard for each other - the amount of times out kick in took an eternity was because no one was making a lead.
The aggression and will in the last quarter needs to be maintained thru an entire game, not just when we’re trying to stay in it. Of course McG isn’t to blame but Fck me what a horrible kick.
I saw a Collingwood supporting friend yday before the game who said we’ll smash them - I said we are more likely to lose than smash them. Of course they also weren’t going to let their 400 gamer down (Altho McG almost stopped that party!)
The loss of TDK has been a killer and agree players are getting rushed back from injuries and we’ve said it before but seriously does any other club have the continuing injury horrors like we do!?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Micky0 - 08-03-2024
(08-03-2024, 11:33 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Another player who has the knack of being on the ground all day and being invisible.I listened to the 2’d quarter on the radio and they talked of Collingwood players getting into Jesse and getting very physical - I didn’t hear of any Carlton player coming in to help - that was on the radio so maybe not 100% accurate but maybe he was rattled after it?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 08-03-2024
(08-03-2024, 11:38 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:I listened to the 2’d quarter on the radio and they talked of Collingwood players getting into Jesse and getting very physical - I didn’t hear of any Carlton player coming in to help - that was on the radio so maybe not 100% accurate but maybe he was rattled after it?him and mcreery were getting into each other.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 08-03-2024
Bingo....it's dawned on me too....TdK is our most important player.
Waited 8 years for him to show up, finally plays dominant series of games then some chopper takes him out.
This is what irks me - we're too nice and get bullied for it. During that game someone should have buried a knee into that chopper and sent a message, f with us and you'll get it back. But no, we just quietly take it and take...the path set for us by the AFL after the salary scandal.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 08-03-2024
We showed plenty of fight in the last primarily inspired by Crippa but it was a fight to get out of a scrape we should not have put ourselves in. Anyway, brutal assessment, this is not our year. We need to reassess, fix the gaps in our list and get super strong for 2025. The window is closing and new younger teams are emerging!
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-03-2024, 11:58 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:We showed plenty of fight in the last primarily inspired by Crippa but it was a fight to get out of a scrape we should not have put ourselves in. Anyway, brutal assessment, this is not our year. We need to reassess, fix the gaps in our list and get super strong for 2025. The window is closing and new younger teams are emerging!It wasn't our year last year until it nearly was.
We had a worse form slump last year, but for a supporter base that is steeped in history and loves to relive it, we seem to forget what happened a mere 12 months ago.
Don't lose hope yet.
It can turn quickly.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-03-2024, 11:38 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:I listened to the 2’d quarter on the radio and they talked of Collingwood players getting into Jesse and getting very physical - I didn’t hear of any Carlton player coming in to help - that was on the radio so maybe not 100% accurate but maybe he was rattled after it?
Motlop gets in peoples faces plenty. Threw out a few don't argues and goes in hard at the contest.
If we could get Fantasia to do the same, he might be in the side.
Some people may have missed some of the things Motlop did, partially because the commentators (on TV at least, probably same for radio) can't tell the difference between him and Martin.
At least 3 times they called the wrong name in reference to those 2. :
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 08-04-2024
I'm not exactly sure where the issues lie. I'm not sure if it's the undeniable reality that all teams have up and down periods, injuries, fatigue, selection etc. I don't think it's about this or that position. It's not IMO about small forwards, or rucks, or key defenders. Too many of our players just seem in poor form.