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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - kruddler - 06-11-2024
Coaches votes....
10 - Tom De Koning (CARL)
7 - Elijah Hollands (CARL)
5 - Nic Martin (ESS)
3 - George Hewett (CARL)
2 - Alex Cincotta (CARL)
2 - Sam Durham (ESS)
1 - Jacob Weitering (CARL)
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - tonyo - 06-11-2024
I have to say, our forward line dynamic has skyrocketed since they put Williams down there and Fogarty came back. Throw Martin and Motlop into that mix, and it will be a seriously scary place for all defenders.
Remember not long ago when we used to dominate inside 50s and couldn't get a goal to save ourselves? I think that one is in the rear-view mirror now......
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - pinot - 06-11-2024
TDK didn't put on a tackle - he did alot right but his tackling game went AWOL cant give him BOG his endeavour was first class but tackling intent was pretty low I reckon. He has and does and should do much better next time around.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - Thryleon - 06-11-2024
(06-11-2024, 12:48 PM)pinot link Wrote:TDK didn't put on a tackle - he did alot right but his tackling game went AWOL cant give him BOG his endeavour was first class but tackling intent was pretty low I reckon. He has and does and should do much better next time around.really?
My personal favourite highlight of his was him desperately rushing a behind on the goal line.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - DJC - 06-11-2024
(06-11-2024, 12:48 PM)pinot link Wrote:TDK didn't put on a tackle - he did alot right but his tackling game went AWOL cant give him BOG his endeavour was first class but tackling intent was pretty low I reckon. He has and does and should do much better next time around.
It's pretty hard to tackle when you're the bloke with the ball :
Weitering didn't lay a tackle either and Cincotta only stuck one. Clearly, they had other priorities, as did Tom.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - pinot - 06-11-2024
(06-11-2024, 12:54 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:really?
My personal favourite highlight of his was him desperately rushing a behind on the goal line.
I did say his endeavour was first class. But if he is going to be elite which he is will be consistently his tackle numbers need to be high.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - Lods - 06-11-2024
What's high for an 'elite' ruckman though.
Grundy averages around 5-6 this season
But Tom is slightly up on Gawn 3.2 to 3.1
Goldstein 2
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - LP - 06-11-2024
Tackle stats are a double edged sword and largely meaningless without context, they can mean someone is hanging back hunting the player instead of being focussed on the ball, or they can mean they are first to the ball and being tackled themselves rather than making tackles.
So high numbers can be bad and low numbers can be good, or the reverse, it depends on all the other aspects of play.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - Baggers - 06-11-2024
(06-11-2024, 12:48 PM)pinot link Wrote:TDK didn't put on a tackle - he did alot right but his tackling game went AWOL cant give him BOG his endeavour was first class but tackling intent was pretty low I reckon. He has and does and should do much better next time around.
Love your work, Fine Wine. But on this one I reckon you missed the boat. As DJC and 3 Leos mentioned above, TDK is a beast for attacking the aggot. He's an initiator. That spoil to prevent a goal was worth ten tackles. And how many times does he follow up his own work in an attacking manner? Going along beautifully is TDK.
Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon - Baggers - 06-11-2024
(06-11-2024, 09:57 PM)LP link Wrote:Tackle stats are a double edged sword and largely meaningless without context, they can mean someone is hanging back hunting the player instead of being focussed on the ball, or they can mean they are first to the ball and being tackled themselves rather than making tackles.
So high numbers can be bad and low numbers can be good, or the reverse, it depends on all the other aspects of play.
Yep, Spotted One.
Let's use Cincotta as an example. Tackle numbers low against Merrett and co. But how many times did he dislodge the aggot from an opponents grip or arms? How often did he prevent his opponent getting the Sherrin due to excellent body position? How many times in a tussle at ground level did he knock the pill out and to a team mates advantage?