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Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 03-09-2024
(03-08-2024, 09:45 PM)shawny link Wrote:Thought both whipping boys Young and Boyd competed well and held their own.I felt Fantasia was much more involved than Owies.
Williams slotted in like he hasnt missed a beat - gave us ran out of back 50 and uses it well even when in traffic. Has very good vision and does'nt panic
Still cant warm to Fantasia. I trust Voss and will hopefully later in the season will see why we got him in.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 03-09-2024
(03-09-2024, 12:35 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:wins free kicks for looking in his direction tooI reckon the game was very well umpired last night. I thought we got the rub of the green and the ball bounced our way quite a few times also.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Lods - 03-09-2024
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Fogarty's forward defensive pressure was really good.
9 tackles was our best for the night.
Ollie Hollands was quiet, but he had 8 as well.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 03-09-2024
(03-09-2024, 01:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I felt Fantasia was much more involved than Owies.Agree. Fantasia's smarts and disposal in tight were influential. Owies was probably our only 'not quite up to it' player.
Hollands, whose tireless work; defensive work, was terrific... however, he's got to become less fumbly and surer with his hands.
Crippa, Cera & Hewett were outstanding. Really well supported by Chugga and J Carroll - who looked like he belonged. Announced himself.
Good to see Cunners going in hard with his body at times when required.
Entire back-line deserves plaudits. (Pleasantly surprised by Young. Kempy tough and hard).
TDK's work was great. Hard at it. 2nd/3rd efforts, terrific.
H... silenced the glib and shallow critics in the best way possible.
Fogarty... tougher than a cat's head. Valuable. When he tackles someone, they remain tackled.
47pt turnaround speaks for itself about belief, persistence, endeavour, pressure and connection... when we bring our 'brand.'
Kinda feels like a 'bonus' 4pts considering where we played, conditions and an elite opposition. Go Blues!
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - Baggers - 03-09-2024
Loved how we mixed up ruck contests a little... bravo to whoever thought of this... well done H, Chugga and Crippa.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 03-09-2024
(03-08-2024, 10:15 PM)kruddler link Wrote:The debate has always been about what is best for the team and team balance.
Pitto and TDK compliment eachother and make eachother better.
....but at the expense of more run and carry.
Against Brisbane, who are the kings of run, carry and fast ball movement, you simply cannot afford the luxury of 2 rucks.
Against lesser teams, you can carry 2 rucks and still be good enough. You could swap TDK and Pitto and ensure you don't burn one out as well.
But ultimately, you will win more games with the team balance we had last night than you will with 2 rucks against the better teams.
The only question mark is over the 'injury to #1 ruck' during the game and how that could have an effect on the result.
Over the course of the year, that may cost you a win.
Over the course of the year, playing 2 rucks will probably cost you more than 1 win.
Play the odds, play 1 ruck.
I'm more a one ruck fan. Whether Harry is great in the ruck or not i'm not so worried. He kills it around the ground and take him away from the confines of the goalsquare. That is more valuable plus it seems to do him good like it did for Levi. Then you can pick an extra runner.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 03-09-2024
Round zero specialists. Never been beaten in round nothing..lol.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 03-09-2024
(03-09-2024, 02:37 AM)laj date Wrote:I'm more a one ruck fan. Whether Harry is great in the ruck or not i'm not so worried. He kills it around the ground and take him away from the confines of the goalsquare. That is more valuable plus it seems to do him good like it did for Levi. Then you can pick an extra runner.Harry's a +200cm lightning fast KPF who takes contested marks in F50 when the heat is on, late in the game when TDK was rucking and we wanted to put heat around the footy he was even roving the stoppages at speed to bring a physical presence.
But after the game his first comment when asked about rucking was his shins are sore, and sore shins are a pre-cursor to a knee(PCL) and even a minor PCL will smash acceleration.
Like Cripps use him in the F50 at throw ins and ball ups, but the centre square stuff send chills down my spine, the benefit is so small and the risk is so high!
We will divide up ruck duties across the season, there will be weeks when pace isn't the priority issue, and it was clearly the issue last finals and last night, we even mentioned it in the pre-game thread that some of the selections can be explained by a need for pace. Other weeks we'll want size or strength around stoppages or a ruck option that floats a kick behind or into D50 which Pitto does far better than others.
So it mostly depends more on opposition strengths and weaknesses, more than our own, as we now have depth we can leverage. We won't become formulaic, because if we do we are predictable and that is the worst thing an AFL team can be.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - pew2 - 03-09-2024
great we won with a bit of luck lions kick 1 goal 6 ,they had 61 f 50 entries ,for me there is so many areas that has not changed from past, that really makes our game plan so predictable but a 1pt win covers everything i suppose.
Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - pinot - 03-09-2024
Playing Brisbane at the Gabba is the hardest game in football - we won't need to see that ground again minimum 12 months if we finish top two