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Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-07-2023
I'd give Harry a run in the ruck too this week. Time for him to step up and use that big frame to help his team overcome
a bit of a disadvantage this week.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - madbluboy - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 08:47 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Why for real? Are you suggesting it doesn't count against crap opponents??
Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - PaulP - 07-07-2023
The ruck discrepancy is significant enough to wonder whether there's anything to be gained by even contesting them. I'd be tempted to contest a small number and for Silvagni and Young to be deployed somewhere more useful. Hopefully our mids have trained wearing purple.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - madbluboy - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 09:01 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The ruck discrepancy is significant enough to wonder whether there's anything to be gained by even contesting them. I'd be tempted to contest a small number and for Silvagni and Young to be deployed somewhere more useful. Hopefully our mids have trained wearing purple.
That's what I mean, do we just play Cripps as ruck and tell him not to touch him unless he grabs it.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - DJC - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 08:23 AM)crashlander link Wrote:We are in trouble. Freo's mids are not like Hawthorn's.
To be honest, without our regular rucks we won't be winning many more games. Silver lining - decent draft picks.
Freo was smashed in the clearances last week despite dominating the hitouts. While Young and Silvagni are way off English’s ability, our mids should be able to do a similar number on Freo’s mids. I expect they will have focused on sharking Freo hitouts and shutting down Freo’s ball movement away from stoppages.
I’m quietly confident that we’ve got this one
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - PaulP - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 09:06 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:That's what I mean, do we just play Cripps as ruck and tell him not to touch him unless he grabs it.
I can see the appeal of that type of thinking. Work on the basis that they will end up with the ball first. Make the Freo mids the hunted, lots of close checking and body work, once they have the ball, then try to force the turnover. Easier said than done of course, but so is everything.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 08:53 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
I thought the opposition didn't matter. You won or lost only based on the number of rucks you play.
At least thats the stat you post each week.
Are you suggesting there is more to it than that?
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - PaulP - 07-07-2023
This will be Charlie Curnow's 100th game. Best of luck. It's been quite the journey. No Ed unfortunately.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - PaulP - 07-07-2023
And Nic Newman's 100th as well.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 07-07-2023
(07-07-2023, 08:53 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.He can break the hitouts record and it won't bother us.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
If he breaks the hitouts to advantage record, then we are in trouble.
Incidentally, i'm not even sure what that is, but if i'd have to guess i'd say it was held by either Sandilands or Mumford.
EDIT: Here is a fun link, albeit missing the last few years...
https://www.afl.com.au/news/148231/all-time-single-match-stats-record-holders
Hitouts to advantage - 27 Goldstein - 2015
BU hitouts to advantage - 11 - Gawn - 2015+2016
TI hitouts to advantage - 14 - Mumford - 2016
CB hitouts to advantage - 15 - Simmonds - 2003
Its hard to find individual player records without going through each game a player has played (AFL Tables don't keep that stat) but earlier this year Pittonet had 20 in a game, and 18 in another from memory.