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Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - BluePhantom - 06-30-2023
(06-29-2023, 10:55 PM)Lods link Wrote:Well, with no rucks at all, it will settle the argument as to whether rucks are important.
We won't win because Dow is not playing! :o
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - Gointocarlton - 06-30-2023
(06-29-2023, 11:42 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree...Their rucks are kids and so are their mids, we should be able to cope ok.Coll are on top, we are 15th
Collingwood had no rucks for a while and showed you can still be competitive if you get inventive ...
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 04:06 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Coll are on top, we are 15thThey were rucking Frampton and Johnson at one stage....a recycle and a mid season rookie who are both undersized, they did the job, didnt win the rucks but just made it harder for the opposition. Someone like Harry has to step up and take his turn, Young can have a go....both 200cm or bigger...the Pies duo were less equipped to do the job but the reason they are on top and we are 15th is they adapt with odds and sods players and compete and its the next soldier up mentality.
Hawthorn have kid rucks and kid mids....as MBB said its not Gawn and Grundy with Petracca, Oliver and crew we are playing...
Blues by 5 goals with one leg in the air is how this game should play out if we get effort from the group...not just 3-4 players.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - cookie2 - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 05:17 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:They were rucking Frampton and Johnson at one stage....a recycle and a mid season rookie who are both undersized, they did the job, didnt win the rucks but just made it harder for the opposition. Someone like Harry has to step up and take his turn, Young can have a go....both 200cm or bigger...the Pies duo were less equipped to do the job but the reason they are on top and we are 15th is they adapt with odds and sods players and compete and its the next soldier up mentality.
Hawthorn have kid rucks and kid mids....as MBB said its not Gawn and Grundy with Petracca, Oliver and crew we are playing...
Blues by 5 goals with one leg in the air is how this game should play out if we get effort from the group...not just 3-4 players.
Agree. I we are serious we should win comfortably.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 06-30-2023
(06-29-2023, 11:42 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree...Their rucks are kids and so are their mids, we should be able to cope ok.Ned Reeves is older than TDK, those young small bodied Mids are lightning quick and run all day, take them lightly and they will run right over us!
Collingwood had no rucks for a while and showed you can still be competitive if you get inventive ...
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 06:07 AM)LP link Wrote:Ned Reeves is older than TDK, those young small bodied Mids are lightning quick and run all day, take them lightly and they will run right over us!
Yes, I tend to agree. They are a very hot and cold team, but their hot is pretty good.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 06:07 AM)LP link Wrote:Ned Reeves is older than TDK, those young small bodied Mids are lightning quick and run all day, take them lightly and they will run right over us!Reeves is one year older, has only been playing for three years@30 games...TDK has been in the system for 5 seasons@50 games.
Hawks mids are in main the coalface type....Newcombe, McDonald, Worpel, Maginness, Ward along with the quicker Butler, Day, Moore.....they contest and chase well so our mids need to provide effort for 4 quarters and be physical.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 06:49 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Reeves is one year older, has only been playing for three years@30 games...TDK has been in the system for 5 seasons@50 games.In the ruck it'll be kiddies versus kiddies if TDK plays, it's far worse if TDK doesn't play because it's a ruck versus next to nothing!
Hawks mids are in main the coalface type....Newcombe, McDonald, Worpel, Maginness, Ward along with the quicker Butler, Day, Moore.....they contest and chase well so our mids need to provide effort for 4 quarters and be physical.
Personally, I doubt the ruck will make much difference this game, because TDK solo won't have the freedom and won't be able to exercise that freedom even if we can orchestrate it, so if he plays I expect game impact to be a nil all draw.
We need the likes of Cunningham and Fogarty and other fringe players beating up on the kiddies, they need to treat this weekend like a feast laid on for beggars! If our fringe players have average games against the Dawks kiddies, then they deserve their papers to be stamped!
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - Lods - 06-30-2023
In: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni
Out: Matthew Cottrell (suspension), Marc Pittonet (knee soreness), Paddy Dow
Looks like Dow will be the sub.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 06-30-2023
(06-30-2023, 07:59 AM)Lods link Wrote:Looks like Dow will be the sub.Nope.
Emergencies....
[36] Josh Honey,
[32] Jaxon Binns,
[29] George Hewett,
[33] Lewis Young