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Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Baggers - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 03:10 PM)DJC link Wrote:Not quite.
De Koning was "managed" the week before and wasn't in the 22. Cowan is "managed" this week. O'Brien was the sub and he has been omitted and Motlop is out suspended. Kennedy is also omitted but he is going to be the sub. Therefore:
Outs: Cowan (managed), Motlop (suspended), Kennedy (omitted), O'Brien (omitted sub)
Ins: Docherty, Saad, Kemp ... and Kennedy will be the sub.
I suspect that a couple of players won't be in their normal roles.
...and I'm glad Dimma and Vossy spoke up about the whole sub mystery rubbish.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Baggers - 04-28-2023
The one thing I hope for more than anything with this game is that Vossy is much more his true self... less of matey/nice with the players and more his ruthless hard edge that delivered him leadership and Brownlows. No compromise. Get that fierceness and boldness back into our game.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Gointocarlton - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 10:26 PM)Baggers link Wrote:The one thing I hope for more than anything with this game is that Vossy is much more his true self... less of matey/nice with the players and more his ruthless hard edge that delivered him leadership and Brownlows. No compromise. Get that fierceness and boldness back into our game.Thats a balancing act, the key is making the players want to run through brick walls for you. To be a good coach, you need to:
- be an excellent communicator, clear and concise no matter if its going good or bad.
- have relationships with every player on the list.
- be a strong tactician during the week and one game day.
- be an excellent motivator.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 04-28-2023
(04-28-2023, 09:04 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think we should use Kennedy a lot more up forward than we do, everyone talks about Cripps resting down there etc but Kennedy can actually kick straight, take a mark and has some forward craft.
When he returned to the team after being ignored for a while a few seasons back he was real good value forward before getting injured again. I think he is in our best 22 and a under rated component of the team and I would have dropped Ed Curnow this week who had a real average game and this is after we had Kennedy play down back and out of position.
Yep. I've been pushing that Kennedy/Forward barrow for a while. He was a FF growing up. Can take a solid grab and is an accurate kick. Whats not to like? As far as i can see the only problem is we could end up being too 'tall/slow' and our mids can't hit a player on the lead.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-29-2023
(04-28-2023, 11:56 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Yep. I've been pushing that Kennedy/Forward barrow for a while. He was a FF growing up. Can take a solid grab and is an accurate kick. Whats not to like? As far as i can see the only problem is we could end up being too 'tall/slow' and our mids can't hit a player on the lead.Agree on the too tall angle and it's horses for courses and he would be replacing one of our taller forwards as an option . Jack could have a rest and MK in his spot and I'd look at a smaller forward line for a different more mobile look at times and take Harry or Charlie off as well if they were not giving us much.
One tall, Kennedy and the smalls might make us less predictable and might stop our mids bombing the ball...I say might.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 04-29-2023
(04-29-2023, 12:07 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote: Agree on the too tall angle and it's horses for courses and he would be replacing one of our taller forwards as an option . Jack could have a rest and MK in his spot and I'd look at a smaller forward line for a different more mobile look at times and take Harry or Charlie off as well if they were not giving us much.
One tall, Kennedy and the smalls might make us less predictable and might stop our mids bombing the ball...I say might.
Not to harp on about it too much, but its yet another reason why i think TDK in the side hurts more than helps. It limits the moves we can make because we have to 'hide' him.
Its one thing i like about Jack going into the ruck when Pittonet needs a rest. It makes us smaller and allows for Cripps/Kennedy to get some forward time.
It appears the club is starting to use Young as the 2nd ruck, with McKay taking it deep forward. Adding in Kemp to cover for Young down back. It doesn't really bode well Kennedy forward as we have 3 talls anchored there already.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - LP - 04-29-2023
(04-29-2023, 12:32 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Its one thing i like about Jack going into the ruck when Pittonet needs a rest.SoJ is worthless in the ruck because we lose momentum massively and during that period our opposition get a free ride gaining momentum while expending very little energy. SoJ in the ruck just builds opposition confidence, and when Pitto comes back on, the opposition are standing a foot taller and are up and running.
You win the ruck by putting your foot on the oppositions throat and never ever ever easing the pressure off, not by giving them a smoko once or twice a quarter. The last thing any team needs are opposition big blokes who are full of confidence!
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - madbluboy - 04-29-2023
Young can play ruck when McGovern is in but that is usually only for about half the season.
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - LP - 04-29-2023
(04-29-2023, 02:14 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Young can play ruck when McGovern is in but that is usually only for about half the season.This is the heart of our problem, it's not that the blokes we have aren't good enough, the problem is that they aren't there consistently enough!
Some of this comes down to team tactics and philosophy, we use our rucks like blunt instruments, the exact opposite of how the Handbaggers use their rucks.
Our game tactics better suit a Nankervis type, but the problem is that type of ruck is typically always getting injuries, so you need two or three of them on the list. Only having one won't do you any good unless the have a freakish injury free season!
Re: AFL Rd 7 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Gointocarlton - 04-29-2023
Sure play one ruck, we know where that got us in the last few games of 2022. Some teams can get away with it, I dont believe we can.