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Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - DJC - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 08:18 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Nah, I blame that on the half ass rules the AFL set up which allowed the new clubs to pilfer the crap out of the established club like ours. Given the pittance the girls are paid (again an AFL park up), big offers from the new clubs were impossible to refuse.
Shorter careers is another factor that encourages AFLW players to chase dollars a little more than their AFL counterparts.
That said, I think Harf probably was instrumental in some players leaving. He tried to impose some standards; if you're not sure you want to be here, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - LP - 02-01-2023
Fans seem to be really struggling with how different AFLW is in regards to professionalism or the lack of it. Very few girls will stray when they have a chance to play with mates or for the club they supported as children. It's having your cake and eating, which seems to be a perennial problem with professional women's team sports.
Sure I'll get lambasted as sexist, misogynous, etc., etc.., whatever!
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - PaulP - 02-01-2023
It wouldn't be a normal Carlton season without a coach sacking.
I'm glad to see Harford is prepared (at least in part) to call a spade a spade.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - Gointocarlton - 02-01-2023
(02-01-2023, 09:04 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It wouldn't be a normal Carlton season without a coach sacking.A little "unclassy" if you ask me. Despite our long list of coaching casualties over the years, none have gone out swinging, they have all stayed classy despite how they may have been treated. Can't say the same for Harf, having said that he is in the media so it was to be expected I guess.
I'm glad to see Harford is prepared (at least in part) to call a spade a spade.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - LP - 02-02-2023
Now Brett Munro has been kyboshed, will there be anybody left standing?
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - DJC - 02-02-2023
(02-01-2023, 09:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:A little "unclassy" if you ask me. Despite our long list of coaching casualties over the years, none have gone out swinging, they have all stayed classy despite how they may have been treated. Can't say the same for Harf, having said that he is in the media so it was to be expected I guess.
I think that Harf's criticism of the program has some merit and shows that he was invested in the players. His comment, "I'm still not 100 per cent convinced of what high performance in a part-time program actually is." strikes at the crux of the matter. The AFL limits the amount of training AFLW players can do but they are expected to be high performance athletes and fitness and coaching staff are expected to have their players ready to go at the drop of a hat. I agree with Harf that a review of the AFLW is due.
The bottom line is that our performances have been disappointing over the last couple of seasons. The predations of expansion clubs, failure to retain players and poor recruitment choices have all played a part. At times, our ball movement and execution was outstanding, and then we'd lose momentum and crash and burn. It was reminiscent of our AFL team under Teague. Harf had to go, particularly with his other commitments.
Patricia Kinnersly needs to lift her game and drive the AFLW program with the same vigor that's now applied to the AFL program.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - Blue Moon - 02-02-2023
We were probably unlucky not to win the flag a couple of seasons ago. However our game style didn't improve, we seemed to lack pace and our ball use and overall skills seemed to be sub-par. We became a very young side and our intent was often up and down, both week to week and within games. AFLW really should be a 17 Game season with a few more players on the list if they want the professionalism they are talking about. Also the Club needs to invest in the VFLW side as well. The Club has very good resources and training facilities but needs to develop a culture where Carlton is a Club of destination.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - Professer E - 02-03-2023
Having a senior player have a stinking season and **** off, giving the club a clip at every opportunity didn't help unity. Then blue-chip senior players get ripped from the side by parasitic clubs without compensation. Hard to win games when you simply don't have the cattle. He was never going to survive the review but he was on a hiding to nothing, he had zero chance.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - madbluboy - 02-03-2023
(02-01-2023, 08:04 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Harf had to go purely on the departing talent.
Half the job is keeping everyone invested.
If they don't want to be here year in and year out thats an issue at coach level and it might very well be about being available for his players.
Clearly something wasn't right there.
Re: Carlton AFLW Review - Half Gone - kruddler - 02-03-2023
(02-03-2023, 12:58 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Having a senior player have a stinking season and **** off, giving the club a clip at every opportunity didn't help unity. Then blue-chip senior players get ripped from the side by parasitic clubs without compensation. Hard to win games when you simply don't have the cattle. He was never going to survive the review but he was on a hiding to nothing, he had zero chance.
Which player are you talking about. There is a few that could fit that bill.
I'm not sure Half going will solve any problems at the club. The only hope is they realise (which they seem to have already) that they need to take the comp more seriously, and that should highlight that the coach (now gone) was not the problem to begin with.