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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Lods - 06-14-2022
"Injuries are no excuse" is a saying we often hear or see written.
It's a nonsense football cliche...like "taking it one week at a time"
Injuries are an excuse.
There's probably a subtle difference between an 'excuse' and a 'reason' for a loss.
When a club, coach or supporter points to injury problems it's seen as an 'excuse'.
When an independent observer or journo points to injury problems it's a 'reason'
Excuses haven't saved a Carlton coach in the last twenty years.
If we were 3-9 instead of 9-3 Voss would be under all sorts of scrutiny as would those that selected him.
Carlton injury list
Adam Cerra Hamstring 2 weeks
David Cuningham Knee TBC
Ed Curnow Calf 2-3 weeks
Caleb Marchbank Knee 6-8 weeks
Oscar McDonald Back Season
Mitch McGovern Hamstring 4-6 weeks
Luke Parks Foot 7 weeks
Marc Pittonet Knee 4 weeks
Jacob Weitering Shoulder 4 weeks
Zac Williams Calf 6-8 weeks
Richmond injury list
Tom Lynch Hamstring Test
Dustin Martin Illness Test
If Martin and Lynch play they'll be at full strength
I personally can't see us winning this game....but have hope that sometimes when the odds are stacked you get a great response.
We may be in the contest for a while but in the end we'll probably be overwhelmed.
If we lose we'll probably see comments about how we aren't as good as some thought.
Players will be required to carry the weight of others as well as their own tasks...especially in the ruck and defence.
Players will no doubt be criticised for not being up to it, with little acknowledgement that the support normally available won't be there.
If we do win it will be an outstanding effort.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - tonyo - 06-14-2022
There is one good side to an extended injury list - it gives second-string players the chance to take more responsibility and potentially take their game to a new level. With the obvious proviso that enough games are won to stay in the hunt, towards the end of the season we may be in a far better position depth-wise than if we had the same 22 fit every week.
Sure, some may not be quite up to it, but others may find an extra gear that could be very handy in a clutch game.
The next three games will be tough, but if we can pinch one, we'll still be in good nick at 10-5.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Thryleon - 06-15-2022
Durds confirmed in for Thursday. Its a necessity really.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-15-2022
Full strength Richmond team will trouble all teams. We all knew that sooner or later we would get found out down back if Weitering got injured after losing Jones and we have actually done better than I thought with Young performing above expectations and players like Newman also lifting their games so while it's been disappointing to have so many injuries we may benefit down the track with these other players enhancing their abilities and we should have a very decent backline with everyone fit.
If we lose to Richmond it's not a disaster, just more bad timing with us being down on troops and them having most of their regulars available. They had a few out in the first round and then lost Prestia early so its swings and roundabouts with injuries affecting outcomes.
Win and it's a real bonus, lose and it's no time to panic..
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 06-15-2022
To be fair, most of our injured players are fringe players and/or those who can be covered quite well. The two exceptions are Pittonet and Weitering.
Hopefully, the taller Durdin can play a role for us on Thursday and our mids and forwards will get the job done.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - madbluboy - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 01:27 AM)DJC link Wrote:To be fair, most of our injured players are fringe players and/or those who can be covered quite well. The two exceptions are Pittonet and Weitering.
Hopefully, the taller Durdin can play a role for us on Thursday and our mids and forwards will get the job done.
Our 3 key defenders and number 1 ruck are missing from our rd 1 side that beat Richmond.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - madbluboy - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 12:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Durds confirmed in for Thursday. Its a necessity really.
Should have played last week.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Slowhand - 06-15-2022
If we win tomorrow night I'm starting to really believe.....
How can they have no injuries..... I cant remember us having a full list to choose from,
I reckon we have them in midfield and they will struggle with our forward line. however we will need all of the stars to line up. At least Durds is over 190cm.... Cerra is a loss.
Bottom line is we have plenty of excuses if we get done
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Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - madbluboy - 06-15-2022
They were the one team who contained Harry and Charlie, that was with Balta playing forward. Think Tarrant beat McKay and Grimes beat Charlie.
In rd 1 it was our midfield that got them with DeKoning's fresh legs jumping all over ghem in ghe ruck in yhe last term. Unfortunately without Pittonet to wear them down it won't happen this time.
Tigers by 26 points.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 06-15-2022
(06-15-2022, 01:50 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Our 3 key defenders and number 1 ruck are missing from our rd 1 side that beat Richmond.
Yes, but Young is an upgrade on McDonald and McGovern has only played two games as a defender. Both have been covered more than adequately.
Essentially, it's Setterfield, Cerra, McDonald, McGovern, Pittonet, Williamson, Weitering and Williams out and probably Young, Walsh, Newnes, Cottrell, S Durdin, Boyd, Plowman and a replacement for Cerra in. It's Pitto and Weiters that we will miss on Thursday.