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Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-26-2022
(05-26-2022, 09:17 AM)DJC link Wrote:I’m a bit surprised that Newnes is back in the 18 but he is a seasoned player with a cool head when it counts.I'd have Martin as the sub and Dow in with those others you mentioned....Martin for me isnt an automatic after a Calf Injury given his form was just average prior. Dow(no tackling) hasnt been perfect in the VFL but has got a lot of the ball and has some run in his legs.
I think that Kennedy, Cottrell, Plowman and Martin will make up the 22 and Dow will be the sub.
That would be a bit tough for Carroll and Motlop but, with the exception of KPPs and rucks, we have serious competition for a place in the team.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 05-26-2022
(05-26-2022, 12:02 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'd have Martin as the sub and Dow in with those others you mentioned....Martin for me isnt an automatic after a Calf Injury given his form was just average prior. Dow(no tackling) hasnt been perfect in the VFL but has got a lot of the ball and has some run in his legs.
I thought Martin was very influential in the games before his calf injury; 5 goals, marks, tackles and a lot of run. Probably close to his best form since he joined but it's arguable that he should come back through the VFL, unless Carroll or Motlop is struggling.
Dow's not as good as our first 5 midfielders and hasn't shown any ability to play elsewhere. He probably deserves a run in the AFL but would that make us stronger?
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-26-2022
Martin is a creative player who is capable of winning a game of footy off his own boot.
He generally tackles well, applies pressure, runs very hard, and usually ends up with lots of score involvements and metres gained.
I would have had a gentle gentle approach with him, and brought him back after the bye, but if he is ready I am ok with that, because he is one of our better performing forwards. Things are getting more competitive on that front though.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-26-2022
(05-26-2022, 10:41 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Martin is a creative player who is capable of winning a game of footy off his own boot.Strong overhead for size also. When his goal kicking is "on", its elite, his action is as pure as it gets.
He generally tackles well, applies pressure, runs very hard, and usually ends up with lots of score involvements and metres gained.
I would have had a gentle gentle approach with him, and brought him back after the bye, but if he is ready I am ok with that, because he is one of our better performing forwards. Things are getting more competitive on that front though.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 05-26-2022
(05-26-2022, 01:29 PM)DJC link Wrote:I thought Martin was very influential in the games before his calf injury; 5 goals, marks, tackles and a lot of run. Probably close to his best form since he joined but it's arguable that he should come back through the VFL, unless Carroll or Motlop is struggling.
Dow's not as good as our first 5 midfielders and hasn't shown any ability to play elsewhere. He probably deserves a run in the AFL but would that make us stronger?
Totally agree re Martin and Dow. Would Dow make us stronger? No. Martin? Yes.
Sorry, but not a Dow fan. Even in last week's loss to Sandy I saw Dow with opportunities to put his body in when an opponent had the aggot and he just watched. Don't trust him to go hard with defensive effort when it's his turn. Exciting when he gets the aggot and runs hard... but that's it.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 05-27-2022
I suspect they'll drop Motlop for Martin, who would want to do something more than be invisible for 75% of the game
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-27-2022
No doubting Martins skills but for me he doesn't do enough for 4 quarters and is a luxury player you have to carry hoping he gives you a burst of brilliance that is game changing.
I like Dow and want to see him succeed but I get the negative vibes from others who are over waiting for some consistency and maturity in his game.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-27-2022
(05-27-2022, 03:22 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:No doubting Martins skills but for me he doesn't do enough for 4 quarters and is a luxury player you have to carry hoping he gives you a burst of brilliance that is game changing.IMO, has not been given enough of a decent go to prove himself EB.
I like Dow and want to see him succeed but I get the negative vibes from others who are over waiting for some consistency and maturity in his game.
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-27-2022
(05-27-2022, 03:32 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:IMO, has not been given enough of a decent go to prove himself EB.Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..
Re: AFL Rd 11 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 05-27-2022
(05-27-2022, 03:47 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..Only if the measure is midfield, I think Newnes and Cottrell have Dow comfortably covered in just about ever other position.