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Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-18-2022
We are destroying sides in the first half of games with our brutal game style. Only a matter if time before our aerobic fitness improves for us to carry it over to the 2nd half. 3 games, plus the NAB game against Melbourne we have run out to huge leads only to struggle in the 2nd half, but the fact we can run out to such leads is a massive sign. Just need the rest to come together.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:51 AM)Slowhand link Wrote:Yep. We will be a lot better with the likes of Gov, Mack, Ed C, Phillp, Cunners and Honey back in the side, although I have my doubts over the durability of a couple.
Interesting to to best players in the reserves were all VFL listed bar from the Plow.
Still have big concerns over our fitness guru. We don't seem to be able to run games out.
Maybe I'm old school but I hear about training blocks and workloads. Your either fit or your not.
My 5 cents
Don't worry about the fitness guru. He has the runs on the board at Hawthorn. The game style is extremely difficult aerobically and takes games before you can fully adapt to it. Fitness isn't black or white it develops and gets better.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - capcom - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:55 AM)laj link Wrote:Don't worry about the fitness guru. He has the runs on the board at Hawthorn. The game style is extremely difficult aerobically and takes games before you can fully adapt to it. Fitness isn't black or white it develops and gets better.
He is found wanting and I'm far from convinced. He ain't no guru
And well into his fourth year
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 02:07 AM)capcom link Wrote:He is found wanting and I'm far from convinced. He ain't no guru
And well into his fourth year
Much harder, physically demanding game style. Only way you adapt to that is games. Like I said, he has the runs on the board with Hawthorn. No such thing as a guru, body gets strength and fitness in it's own time, unless you are the Weapon and Steve Dank. Some are simply better than others.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Macca37 - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:51 AM)Slowhand link Wrote:Yep. We will be a lot better with the likes of Gov, Mack, Ed C, Phillp, Cunners and Honey back in the side, although I have my doubts over the durability of a couple.
Interesting to to best players in the reserves were all VFL listed bar from the Plow.
Still have big concerns over our fitness guru. We don't seem to be able to run games out.
Maybe I'm old school but I hear about training blocks and workloads. Your either fit or your not.
My 5 cents
I've just watched the last quarter again and I can't see signs of our fitness level being a cause of our problem.
For the first fifteen minutes it was Port wanting the ball more than we did and when they went into attack they looked to break up our defence by kicking to position.
On the other hand we went back to our old habit of total predictability by kicking long down the line on the heads of our forwards in the hope that luck would favour us.
Fitness is not our problem, it's what is happening between the ears that needs attention.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - DJC - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:55 AM)laj link Wrote:Don't worry about the fitness guru. He has the runs on the board at Hawthorn. The game style is extremely difficult aerobically and takes games before you can fully adapt to it. Fitness isn't black or white it develops and gets better.
The Terrier got Charlie back on the park and in career best form. How many folk here were convinced that Charlie would never play again?
Russell deserves a contract extension just for his work with Charlie.
Imagine how good we'll be when Russell has the squad at peak fitness for the pointy end of the season.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Mav - 04-18-2022
If it were just a fitness issue, I'd think that would play out more as the 3rd Q dragged on. I can't imagine it would prevent a concerted effort in the 1st 5 minutes of Q3 after a 20 minute break.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - LP - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 03:19 AM)DJC date Wrote:The Terrier got Charlie back on the park and in career best form. How many folk here were convinced that Charlie would never play again?I partly agree, but I do not get the team's apparent flatness in such extended bursts, it may not be so much physical but a mental fitness that is lacking.
Russell deserves a contract extension just for his work with Charlie.
Imagine how good we'll be when Russell has the squad at peak fitness for the pointy end of the season.
Are we already looking a bit fatigued at Rnd. 5, even if it's only mental fatigue?
I won't be overly focussed on physical fitness, because in reality if Charlie hangs on to two F50 chest marks after half time and kicks straight we probably win comfortably. He got into those positions and his opponents could not go with him, so he can't be unfit, but doing the hard work then dropping the baby mark is perhaps a concentration / pressure issue. Fwiw, I think BigH dropped one as well that caused a turnover goal. They both seem to be unable to relax into the mark after having done all the hard work.
We still have a couple of kids who stand waiting for the football to come to them, it's cost us several goals over the last couple of weeks and probably adds up to a 5 or 6 goal turnaround over two games.
I think we cannot get Gov back soon enough, he brings a competency and calmness, I bet some of you didn't expect anyone to be writing that by Rnd 5!
Also, I'm a Weiters booster but he's going a bit over the top with the punching, when he is so well clear of his opponents and head and shoulders above others in contest he could clearly mark the ball and thus change some momentum. I've noticed two weeks in a row he changes from punching to marking late in games, but he'd be better off to do this dynamically for four quarters rather than in a formulaic manner which I think makes him too predictable. When he sees the opposition roving his punches he should start marking the ball more often and utilising the fact the opponents are then out of position.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - capcom - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 02:49 AM)laj link Wrote:No such thing as a guru, body gets strength and fitness in it's own time
That was your label .... not mine.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - LP - 04-18-2022
Yesterday was hot, the footy gets greasy, probably even more slippery than when it's raining. We missed several set shots at goal from 30m out, and each time the ball seemed to slide off the foot.
Do modern AFL players not have the basic skill / knowledge of kicking the footy with the lacing down when the set shot is inside 30 - 35m range? You obviously cannot kick it as far, but making contact with the lace side means it certainly won't slide off the boot, and you are forced to kick through the footy just to get it to 40m!.
Maybe it hurts their little tootsies too much!