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Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - DJC - 05-21-2021
(05-21-2021, 01:03 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I find myself in two minds over the whole Tayla episode.
1. Her career as a boxer and AFLW player will be short lived, maybe another 4-7 years, so she has every right to do all she can to secure her long term financial future. Perfectly understandably.
2. However, and as harsh as this may sound, our club must manage its finances intelligently. No one is bigger than the club.
As difficult as it may be to wave her good-bye, and be strongly compensated, if it is to be... so be it.
She is an inspiration for women in sport, generally. I wish her the very best and to keep up her inspiration/role model ways. No matter what, her time at PP will always be well regarded, as it should be.
I think that Tayla, and athletes generally, have an obligation to themselves and their family, to make the most out of their generally short careers and, as far as possible, set themselves up for life after sport. However, it may be that Tayla and her manager have priced her out of the AFLW.
In terms of what Tayla offers on the football field, LP's observation that she may be umpired out of the game seems to have a solid foundation. Then there's the matter of the first generation of AFLW players being outclassed by youngsters who have grown up playing Aussie football and, as a result, having a limited career window. Tayla is an excellent mark and, prior to THE photograph, was an excellent kick. Her positioning, reading of the play, second efforts and playing the ball below her knees are not strengths and have been exploited by younger, more complete footballers.
Best of luck to her, I enjoyed her time in navy blue and I will follow her boxing career - one that I hope is successful but short.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - Gointocarlton - 05-21-2021
4 goals from 8 very ordinary games, give the extra coin to Vescio who actually won the league goal kicking. Perspective Tayla.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - Thryleon - 05-21-2021
(05-20-2021, 01:49 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:She would probably do the AFLW more good if they dont pay her and she leaves the sport.
Would highlight the inequities more. Call me a cynic.
Just bumping this one for anyone who thinks she or aflw loses if she's lost to the game.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - RiverRat - 05-21-2021
(05-21-2021, 01:32 AM)DJC link Wrote:Harfs statement on RSN regarding Tayla Harris:
"Tayla's skill set in AFLW is unique, the challenge for Tayla was to be able to do that week in, week in. From a list management perspective you've got to put a monetary value on that. Clearly we've been unable to make that work"
For that kind of money she would need to perform more than week in and week out - she would need to impose herself several times each quarter. Give the money to Prespakis who tries to carry the team on her back.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - Baggers - 05-21-2021
(05-21-2021, 02:10 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:For that kind of money she would need to perform more than week in and week out - she would need to impose herself several times each quarter. Give the money to Prespakis who tries to carry the team on her back.
Well said, Ye Rat O' the River.
As I mentioned earlier, I get that she has something special (exceptional marketability) and has a very short time frame to make some good loot to help, significantly, her personal financial situation. I also get that she represents something that is inspirational to girls, young women and women of all ages.
BUT, I love what Harf said - spot on.
AND, to be totally selfish and look at it entirely from a CFC point of view... I am wrapped the club took the stance it did. As a player she seems to me to be exceptional in one area (one dimensional), and one area alone. When it comes to team contribution and significant 4 qtr contribution, as you rightly point out Ye Rat O' the River, Maddy P brings that without pause. Purely from a club viewpoint I would choose Maddy P., Darcy V., and a few others well before Tayla. I apologize if that sounds harsh to some.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - kruddler - 05-21-2021
re Tayla's form....
Don't write her off based on this years form.
She was playing injured a lot and output was down on previous years.
She is a 2-time AA
2x leading goalkicker.
She won the QAWFL B+F as a 15yo.
She is still only 24.
I've got no issue with the stance the club has taken.
But write Tayla off at your own risk.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - LP - 05-22-2021
(05-21-2021, 02:10 PM)RiverRat date Wrote:For that kind of money she would need to perform more than week in and week out - she would need to impose herself several times each quarter. Give the money to Prespakis who tries to carry the team on her back.Yes, Erin Phillips style output earns you the big bickies.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - crashlander - 05-22-2021
I will be sorry to see Tayla go, but we couldn't match what she was asking for without AFL help.
The issue I now have is simple: if another team can match what she wants, can they do it without AFL help? I doubt that greatly. And, if the AFL does provided money and opportunities, then why not to us?
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - Gointocarlton - 05-22-2021
(05-21-2021, 11:23 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Well said, Ye Rat O' the River.If not for "that photo" and the publicity around it, she'd be just an AFLW player.
As I mentioned earlier, I get that she has something special (exceptional marketability) and has a very short time frame to make some good loot to help, significantly, her personal financial situation. I also get that she represents something that is inspirational to girls, young women and women of all ages.
BUT, I love what Harf said - spot on.
AND, to be totally selfish and look at it entirely from a CFC point of view... I am wrapped the club took the stance it did. As a player she seems to me to be exceptional in one area (one dimensional), and one area alone. When it comes to team contribution and significant 4 qtr contribution, as you rightly point out Ye Rat O' the River, Maddy P brings that without pause. Purely from a club viewpoint I would choose Maddy P., Darcy V., and a few others well before Tayla. I apologize if that sounds harsh to some.
Re: Harris at Odds over Contract Talks - madbluboy - 05-24-2021
It's about the marketing, that photo made her the biggest name in the sport.
When asked my wife could only name 5 AFLW players.
Tayla Harris
Darcy Vescio
Erin Phillips
Daisy Pearce
Moana Hope