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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Mav - 04-17-2021
You know things aren’t going well when you hope the medical sub will be activated in order to inject a bit of energy into the team (even though the medical sub was Dow) ...
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - flyboy77 - 04-17-2021
2 out of 5 putrid efforts,...two wins asgainst teams who are so so and had significant injuries.
Is anyone down at Princes Park going to stand up and say ENOUGH?
Or will we still be mediocre lightweights in another 20 years.
My 8yo simply doesn't believe Carlton was ever a good team (and i do have the 1995 team up on the wall).
That is bloody sad.
First thing I would do is sack most, if not all, of the line/assistant coaches ala Richmond. This week.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Macca37 - 04-17-2021
After so many years of rebuilding, we should expect to have a team that plays at a level similar to Port Adelaide.
That's what we have been led to expect from the Carlton hierarchy.
And yet we are still talking in terms of if we improve our kicking skills or put in harder then we will win. The fact is we have recruited players with mediocre kicking skills at best and they are not going to improve.
Teague deserves criticism but how can you put a plan in place with players incapable of carrying it out.
Our forward line entry, and the forward line itself, were a shambles. We had players getting in the way of one another, and this is happening every week.
As has been said, too many players of VFL standard and incapable of improvement.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - flyboy77 - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 11:52 PM)Macca37 link Wrote:After so many years of rebuilding, we should expect to have a team that plays at a level similar to Port Adelaide.
That's what we have been led to expect from the Carlton hierarchy.
And yet we are still talking in terms of if we improve our kicking skills or put in harder then we will win. The fact is we have recruited players with mediocre kicking skills at best and they are not going to improve.
Teague deserves criticism but how can you put a plan in place with players incapable of carrying it out.
Our forward line entry, and the forward line itself, were a shambles. We had players getting in the way of one another, and this is happening every week.
As has been said, too many players of VFL standard and incapable of improvement.
Cripps is a so so kick - tell him to handball it off every bloody time. Simple.
I still think it's our system/structures or lack thereof that is beating us.
The players look like they are confused...
If they don't know or understand their role, something is very amiss.
They're not 1st or 2nd year players, we're talking 4th, 5th, even more years in the system types.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 11:36 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cripps is like Levi, will have the odd night out... Robbie Gray kicks straight every week like Jack Reiwoldt and it looks like the kid from Port is the same. Think Dunstall commented on his perfect kicking action.Gray has been a arrow for years, pure class infront of goal. Georgiades has started of his career well and will be Jack Reiwoldt type in front of goal in the years to come. Levi and Cripps aren't even on the same planet with respect to goal kicking. Ive been saying it for weeks, Cripps needs to stay in his lane and do what he does best, clearances. Get it, give it nothing more. Levi is just a temporary back up for Pitto, once and if De Koning gets fit, Levi is goneski.
Id back Gray and Georgiades every day of the week vs Levi and Cripps..
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-18-2021
(04-17-2021, 11:48 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:That wasn't the discussion EB. The who you'd back answer no one disputes.Kane Cornes usually talks carp but his thoughts on Cripps on afl.com are accurate.
I'm simply suggesting last night, Cripps' head, like most of his team mates, was not where it should be....why? No idea.
But it's like they'e checked out before the game even starts.
One of my non CFC supporting mates sitting with me suggested the lads had rolled a fwe reefers before the game....they were that 'off'.
Needs to give the ball off more, stop trying to be a hero and lead by doing what he is good at and that's helping get the ball to others who can win the game.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - PaulP - 04-18-2021
(04-17-2021, 11:55 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Cripps is a so so kick - tell him to handball it off every bloody time. Simple.
I still think it's our system/structures or lack thereof that is beating us.
The players look like they are confused...
If they don't know or understand their role, something is very amiss.
They're not 1st or 2nd year players, we're talking 4th, 5th, even more years in the system types.
I thought everyone was raving about Teague's very simple, easy to follow game plan ? Especially after the supposed Byzantine complexity of Bolton.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Baggers - 04-18-2021
Funny how The TT's language has changed from winning and being known for pressure to growth and learning... again. And referring to last year's efforts to boost the side's credibility.
Same old, same old re crappis dackis when under pressure. What does crappis dackis look like? Kick and hope, poor skills under real or perceived pressure, individualism.
We just do not look like a 'team'. We look like a bunch of individuals, often times, doing their own thing.
Crippa seems to play with a Saviour Complex! Wants to continually do the amazing or heroic things. Stop it!! Where are the coaches telling him that his strengths are winning the aggot, not disposal - especially by foot. It'd be a good start for the skipper to be a team player, play to his strengths... get the aggot then quickly give it to someone in a better position - no more heroics.
There's plenty to be positive about re how we win the ball (endeavour/intent), but then the trouble starts (execution/system) - when we have to think what to do with it. Maybe we're thinking too much, maybe we're confused, any way you look at it we do not appear to have footy smarts. Plenty of footy dumbs. I reckon our fans groan more often than just about any other group of supporters whilst watching their chargers in action.
After most of our games you look at the stats and we compare very favourably with our opponents - so how do we blow so many opportunities so gloriously? Our ability to land a kick into the hands of an opponent is nearing legendary status.
And then there's playing blokes out of position and gifting non-performers games (though I think we're waking up to that one).
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-18-2021
(04-18-2021, 12:05 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I thought everyone was raving about Teague's very simple, easy to follow game plan ? Especially after the supposed byzantine complexity of Bolton.Teague is struggling, needs the win against Brisbane next week or its going to get uncomfortable in the media for him..
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-18-2021
(04-18-2021, 12:07 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Funny how The TT's language has changed from winning and being known for pressure to growth and learning... again. And referring to last year's efforts to boost the side's credibility.I think Lods said the same thing about the effort being individualistic. That to me may be due to players being told to perform or look elsewhere? FB77 reckons we looked off from the first bounce, that is totally unacceptable. Far too many signs of same old same old for my liking. The CFC roller coaster continues.
Same old, same old re crappis dackis when under pressure. What does crappis dackis look like? Kick and hope, poor skills under real or perceived pressure, individualism.
We just do not look like a 'team'. We look like a bunch of individuals, often times, doing their own thing.
Crippa seems to play with a Saviour Complex! Wants to continually do the amazing or heroic things. Stop it!! Where are the coaches telling him that his strengths are winning the aggot, not disposal - especially by foot. It'd be a good start for the skipper to be a team player, play to his strengths... get the aggot then quickly give it to someone in a better position - no more heroics.
There's plenty to be positive about re how we win the ball (endeavour/intent), but then the trouble starts (execution/system) - when we have to think what to do with it. Maybe we're thinking too much, maybe we're confused, any way you look at it we do not appear to have footy smarts. Plenty of footy dumbs. I reckon our fans groan more often than just about any other group of supporters whilst watching their chargers in action.
After most of our games you look at the stats and we compare very favourably with our opponents - so how do we blow so many opportunities so gloriously? Our ability to land a kick into the hands of an opponent is nearing legendary status.
And then there's playing blokes out of position and gifting non-performers games (though I think we're waking up to that one).