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Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Lods - 08-09-2020
(08-09-2020, 12:37 PM)capcom link Wrote:I'm having some real doubts about him.
Obviously this is a season unlike others.
But we seem to be at a stage where we lack size and strength.
Our bigger players are still often beaten in physical contests.
The bigger guys also seem to have a fair share of injuries.
We're surrendering leads on a regular basis.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 08-09-2020
(08-09-2020, 12:44 PM)Lods link Wrote:Obviously this is a season unlike others.I commented on our size today to my daughter at the end of the game when Murph and Shuey where talking, the difference in mass between the two was very noticable (arms/biceps, shoulders neck).
But we seem to be at a stage where we lack size and strength.
Our bigger players are still often beaten in physical contests.
The bigger guys also seem to have a fair share of injuries.
We're surrendering leads on a regular basis.
Having said that, I think its a little hard to blame Russell for injuries that occur during games, these are gonna happen (eg Martin). Even the chandeliers like Marchbank, Charlie, Cunningham etc, Russell is widely regarded as the best in the business yet...
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - LoveNavy - 08-09-2020
WC 23rd player today was #22 Nathan Williams. According to BT that is.
FWIW He began his career in Mandurah, just south of Perth, aged 12yrs. He became a regular WAFL umpire.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Lods - 08-09-2020
(08-09-2020, 12:57 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I commented on our size today to my daughter at the end of the game when Murph and Shuey where talking, the difference in mass between the two was very noticable (arms/biceps, shoulders neck).
Having said that, I think its a little hard to blame Russell for injuries that occur during games, these are gonna happen (eg Martin). Even the chandeliers like Marchbank, Charlie, Cunningham etc, Russell is widely regarded as the best in the business yet...
We have a very good record for destroying the reputations of some of the 'best in the business'
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 08-09-2020
Teague's a nice talker in his post match pressers, getting better week by week.
You can tell from the way he speaks that he is for the players and the club, it's not just lip service like some, he really means it!
Glad he hasn't bought into the umpiring shizen.
While I bang on about Clarkson, Dimma and Scott, I don't want our bloke doing the same but rather I want Scott, Clarkson and Dimma fined into AFL oblivion. Mind you, I hope Teague's diplomatic approach doesn't mean we(The Club) aren't seeking clarification through official channels, and I'd be happy for Teague to parrot the "AFL's Official Response" to any clarification request in a presser, without necessarily bagging umpires or individual decisions. The problems that I see are the AFL's faceless men and the overtly manipulative coaches.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Professer E - 08-09-2020
If the reported tackles inside F50 are as above, this must be called out to all and sundry. If it's not blatant umpiring bias, it's sanctioned cheating and we're all over it. All us fans want is consistency and a level playing field. Is that unreasonable in "sport"?
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - townsendcalling - 08-09-2020
(08-09-2020, 10:23 PM)LP link Wrote:Teague's a nice talker in his post match pressers, getting better week by week.
You can tell from the way he speaks that he is for the players and the club, it's not just lip service like some, he really means it!
Glad he hasn't bought into the umpiring shizen.
While I bang on about Clarkson, Dimma and Scott, I don't want our bloke doing the same but rather I want Scott, Clarkson and Dimma fined into AFL oblivion. Mind you, I hope Teague's diplomatic approach doesn't mean we(The Club) aren't seeking clarification through official channels, and I'd be happy for Teague to parrot the "AFL's Official Response" to any clarification request in a presser, without necessarily bagging umpires or individual decisions. The problems that I see are the AFL's faceless men and the overtly manipulative coaches.
It’s a Teague directive that we don’t go back and put it on opposition players who make a mistake, just celebrate our success from the blunder. Also, many are having a crack at Plowman for his reaction to the 50 meter penalty, but again that’s the Teague way. If that’s the culture we are promoting, I’m fine with that. Reflects Teague’s playing era, courageous, non compromising but fair.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Baggers - 08-09-2020
(08-09-2020, 11:24 AM)laj link Wrote:We had 17 F50 tackles, no frees. Eagles 5 F50 tackles for 3 frees and 2 goals.
I nearly fell through my clacker when I read that stat. The club should demand a 'please explain'. That is beyond a statistical anomaly... that is simply shocking. I wouldn't mind betting that behind the scenes there is a fair bit going on.
Like to see umpire 22s report sheet including frees paid that shouldn't have been, frees not paid that should have been, 50/50 decisions and which way they went and where all the frees and non-frees took place.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - Thryleon - 08-09-2020
So, im just going to say the following.
Why do we have to play PERFECT football when our opponents can hold and scrag illegally, mark intefere, drop the footy, tackle before we have even taken posession of the footy, and its play on, or ball up.
Daisy called a few out yesterday. That second goal West Coast were given was for a non existant holding the ball on SPS, and a phantom 50 metre penalty to put Darling directly in front.
I still dont know what that entire passage of play was for. They didnt replay it, and the commentators actually pointed out the differences for once. Daisy agreed with SPS second holding the ball, but fork me he picked the ball up, and stepped backwards and then was wrapped up from behind before he could do anything.
Levi gets two hands in the back, play on. In a ruck contest, his opponent wraps his arms round him, whilst he pushes off his chest, and its a illegal hold against Levi...
I am sick to death of this shit. 21 vs 18 every week, and they gave us the rub of the green for one quarter against Clarko last week, before reverting to punishing us at every opportunity.
West Coasts 5 goal run on?
Dropping the ball out of the centre.
Illegal blocking out of the centre.
Plowman tackled off the ball by Darling (cant drag him to ground and call it a shepherd).
liam Ryan drops the ball to advantage (should have been holding the ball).
Theres your 4 goal run on. Argue with me if you want to, but when the opposition are gifted the league, you cant ask us to take it back every week. Its pathetic.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast - LoveNavy - 08-09-2020
Afl
10 v 18 tackles i50
18 of 77 tackles i50 is a great sign of our pressure, and we won i50 count and turnovers. CP 120 v 116. We did a lot right.
9 v 3 marks i50 hurts. Not surprising given fwd stocks v premiership backs