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Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 01:37 AM)capcom link Wrote:You're keeping the faith Jim. This is a "nothing" season so "anything" is worth a go. ;D
Just a game out with a better percentage, so a win could put us in. Any finals in any year is most valuable to our development. Even if we miss them at least competing hard for them will aid our development learning to play with that type of pressure.
It's just nice to be thinking of that rather than looking who the no.1 pick is going to be for us...lol.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - cookie2 - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 03:07 AM)laj link Wrote:That's the stage we're at. Inconsistent, and that's during games, and cost us wins. Sort that and we start to really make it.Jim I think we need to bolster up our onfield leadership if we are to take that next step.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 03:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Jim I think we need to bolster up our onfield leadership if we are to take that next step.That's part of it but wipe out the inconsistency and we would've had quite a few more wins, which puts us really right there. They both might be entwined.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - laj - 08-04-2020
Who comes in for Cunningham, who's out for 2 weeks with a calf strain.
Honey or Fisher. Honey sounds a similar type.
Lot of talent in the Honey family. Father a Commonwealth Games bronze medalist, mother a national netball Diamond, sister a Melbourne Vixen, uncle an Olympic silver medalist behind Carl Lewis and a 2 times Commonwealth Games gold medalist. So if bloodlines count for anything.....
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 02:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm actually torn...At our best we are a chance to beat anyone.Those two lines sum Carlton up BUT, many around us a falling like dominoes so keep the faith against WC, it aint over till its over.
But we're up and down like a yo-yo.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Lods - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 03:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Jim I think we need to bolster up our onfield leadership if we are to take that next step.
(08-04-2020, 03:43 AM)laj link Wrote:That's part of it but wipe out the inconsistency and we would've had quite a few more wins, which puts us really right there. They both might be entwined..
The problem is that inconsistency is in the nature of some of these players.
It's ingrained
Cunningham's one of the prime examples.
We all know what he's capable of but he produces it inconsistently.
And he's not Robinson Crusoe.
How do you wipe that out?
You can't do it just by saying "We need to be more consistent."
And for players like Dow, Fisher , O'Brien, SPS etc there may be different reasons for their inconsistency
At the moment we're probably picking teams with the best chance to win (with the odd notable exception)
The fact that we're relying on scratch matches for our second tier players, rather than a formal secondary competition, means players not in the top 22 are being managed in terms of game time and probably not getting proper hit-outs.
All this gives them a lesser opportunity to put pressure on the senior side.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - spf - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 04:13 AM)laj link Wrote:Who comes in for Cunningham, who's out for 2 weeks with a calf strain.
Honey or Fisher. Honey sounds a similar type.
Lot of talent in the Honey family. Father a Commonwealth Games bronze medalist, mother a national netball Diamond, sister a Melbourne Vixen, uncle an Olympic silver medalist behind Carl Lewis and a 2 times Commonwealth Games gold medalist. So if bloodlines count for anything.....
Sam Philp was named as an emergency along with Zac Fisher. I think they may blood Philp who has a good turn of speed and can win his own ball.
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - townsendcalling - 08-04-2020
None of the fringe players are having the opportunity to have a real hit out and prove their worth due to the current arrangements. These scratch matches are the old ‘dancing with your sister’ analogy that Pagan used to refer to. Bloody hard gig trying to stake your claim these day......
(Wouldn’t mind seeing what Cotrell has to offer.....)
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - capcom - 08-04-2020
One can't tread water forever by failing to reward those maybe more deserving of chances. How many has Lang had?
Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Baggers - 08-04-2020
(08-04-2020, 02:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm actually torn...At our best we are a chance to beat anyone.
But we're up and down like a yo-yo.
And the prophet in me says we aren't consistent enough to make a good fist of it this year.
I'd still go with the play our winningest side until finals chances disappear completely.
The experience of finals football is a valuable one in any team's development.
But the minute we're no longer a chance start the experiments.
Wish I could find the article from last Friday calling us the 'Jekyll & Hyde' of the AFL... within games! And the author of the article correctly predicted that it would be an issue against the Dawks.