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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Hubba - 07-03-2020
(07-03-2020, 12:42 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Disagree EB, think O'Brien delivers the ball well, at length, into I50.
Has some ticker too. But kennedy deserves a gig first. BOG two weeks running in the 2s.
It's been a tough year for the kids - Dow has a knee but even if fit, hard to find form with no 2s competition?
My changes for next week?
OUT: Newnes, Simmo, McKay, Philp.
IN: Stocker, Fisher, Kennedy, SOJ.
McGovern stays by default.
Simo not getting dropped anytime soon.
Kennedy , SOJ and Cripps cannot all play together = SLOW
Stocker would want to become a player as I think supporters high hopes far outweigh his
injury prone history and limited output to date.
McGovern dosnt seem to run to the right spots. But our disposal into forward 50 couldn't be any worse.
We just bomb it on their heads and hope the talls can take a mark. It doesn't get delivered.
Our leaders didnt lay a tackle in the first half. Not a single tackle.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - laj - 07-03-2020
(07-02-2020, 09:02 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I absolutely know they will dish up the crap they did last night again, they have form. Dunno which team you have been watching.I'm sick of pissing 4 points down the drain through not being switched on. We've shown we can match it with any team but we just waste it too often. No point giving away 6 goals starts then whittling down to bugger all and losing, or, like last night, cut back half the margin. We showed against Geelong what we can do when we turn up to play. For 3 qtrs we smashed them on their own dog patch with sublime football. That's the standard and I expect it kept to. This has less to do with ability and more to do with a piss poor attitude. We're 8-8 under Teague, which we would've accepted at the time of his appointment, but $hit, we should've won quite a few more. We have just simply pissed so many games down the drain and has to stop.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - flyboy77 - 07-03-2020
(07-03-2020, 12:54 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fly,I know its harsh but Obrien doesnt stick tackles, doesnt always attack the ball properly and his kicking is over rated as half of them end up in the crowd.
If a runt like Philp is getting a game ahead of Obrien it doesnt say much for the latter....
I like your ins but would drop McGovern and give Harry another chance.
Different roles EB and Fisher will come in for Philp.
Tackles?
12 players had zero up to half time.
Full game?
Samo 1
Plow 1
Tommy W 1
Doc 0
Newnes 0
Simmo 0
Walsh 0
Weiters 0
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - LP - 07-03-2020
Hard to measure the metal of forwards or defenders this week because our ball use was a bad as it's ever been in the last 5 years. Soft turnover after soft turnover.
It looks to me like 3 close games in a row removed all the run out of our guys, they had heavy legs from the first bounce and it was obvious. Cripps, Pittonet, Levi, Jones, Plowman looked like they were running on sloppy beach sand. Lots of effort for very little motion.
In the last three weeks the Aints had two pretty soft results and were basically spectators in the other game. They had their version of our last night two weeks ago against the Filth.
I realise a lot of people have been Pittonet boosters, but in reality the game versus Gawn and last night are the true comparison to front line AFL rucks. Pittonet's aggression helps him star against B-Graders, but he was basically bullied last night by a guy who's on trajectory to be one of the AFL's best.
On last night, how the feck can King just throw Weitering to the ground 2 or 3 times, once not even facing the football?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - laj - 07-03-2020
(07-03-2020, 01:31 AM)LP link Wrote:Hard to measure the metal of forwards or defenders this week because our ball use was a bad as it's ever been in the last 5 years. Soft turnover after soft turnover.
It looks to me like 3 close games in a row removed all the run out of our guys, they had heavy legs from the first bounce and it was obvious. Cripps, Pittonet, Levi, Jones, Plowman looked like they were running on sloppy beach sand. Lots of effort for very little motion.
In the last three weeks the Aints had two pretty soft results and were basically spectators in the other game. They had their version of our last night two weeks ago against the Filth.
I realise a lot of people have been Pittonet boosters, but in reality the game versus Gawn and last night are the true comparison to front line AFL rucks. Pittonet's aggression helps him star against B-Graders, but he was basically bullied last night by a guy who's on trajectory to be one of the AFL's best.
On last night, how the feck can King just throw Weitering to the ground 2 or 3 times, once not even facing the football?
Make some good points
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Gointocarlton - 07-03-2020
(07-02-2020, 11:08 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Still lack physical size around the ball and we were bullied by hackers like Kent, Clark, even Gresham was pushing our blokes around.In the old days, Carrazzo would do this, he'd let the tagger/harasser know in no uncertain terms to F-Off.
Teams don't fear us, you need presence as well as skill and we don't have it.
We have a list of Von Trapp nice kids and no mongrels who can get the likes of Steele off Cripps, Walsh etc..
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - flyboy77 - 07-03-2020
(07-03-2020, 01:31 AM)LP link Wrote:Hard to measure the metal of forwards or defenders this week because our ball use was a bad as it's ever been in the last 5 years. Soft turnover after soft turnover.
It looks to me like 3 close games in a row removed all the run out of our guys, they had heavy legs from the first bounce and it was obvious. Cripps, Pittonet, Levi, Jones, Plowman looked like they were running on sloppy beach sand. Lots of effort for very little motion.
In the last three weeks the Aints had two pretty soft results and were basically spectators in the other game. They had their version of our last night two weeks ago against the Filth.
I realise a lot of people have been Pittonet boosters, but in reality the game versus Gawn and last night are the true comparison to front line AFL rucks. Pittonet's aggression helps him star against B-Graders, but he was basically bullied last night by a guy who's on trajectory to be one of the AFL's best.
On last night, how the feck can King just throw Weitering to the ground 2 or 3 times, once not even facing the football?
So everyone had heavy legs but Pittonet didn't?
Like Weiters getting easily outmarked by King, it was obvious Pittonet was 'tired'.....remember the guy has played about 5 or 6 games at this level....
Not sure why you single him out, he was off like many yet still managed 22 hit outs (same as Marshall).
Casboult can also ruck much better - he was out of sorts last night - some of the marks he missed.....crazy.
Steele holding Cripps off the ball blatantly must be addressed by the Club.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Thryleon - 07-03-2020
There was lots of infringing last night.
Only Carlton were pulled up for most of it. They gave us Philps goal in the same way they gave st. Kilda a 4 or 5 goal headstart.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Gointocarlton - 07-03-2020
(07-02-2020, 11:24 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:In fairness they did rally and there were some great passages of play that showed we had it and strength but then... dumb Turnover! I am sure that happened 3 times. The across goals ones were just so lazy and the sps killed what would’ve probably been a goal.Dumb 50s, Dumb switches of play to 2 on 1s. These just dont happen every know and then, they happen all too often. People criticize the umps all the time, but was I the only one that noticed the repeat offended for HTB was Curnow? I counted at least 3 where he made no attempt what so ever to dispose of the ball, in a week were its been discussed ad nauseam and you know the umps are gonna be red hot on it. How many games has he played?
McG’s tapping the ball back into play running thru the oppo goal posts: what the hell was he thinking? For someone on lower $ watching that guy do that must be so frustrating. Just dumb.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - capcom - 07-03-2020
I know it's a screwed up season but our recruiting over the last few years (and the reasons behind them) should prompt a serious review and an all out attack on securing at least two big names. Kreuzer, Murphy and Simpson must go by virtue of form if not age. They're not alone by any means.
We can't continue "financing" incompetence. At any level.