(05-08-2019, 09:11 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blues-welcome-returns-20190508-p51ldl.html

Quote:Treatment / Management

Most adductor strains are managed conservatively. Initial management will include relative rest from sports, ice, compression, analgesia and physical therapy. Analgesia typically includes acetaminophen and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications. The rehabilitation program should include stretching, the range of motion and strengthening of the affected leg and core accompanied by a gradual return to sport. Acute injuries may return as quickly as 4 to 8 weeks while chronic strains may take many months to achieve desired results.[6][7]

In addition, other treatment modalities may be available for refractory cases. This includes corticosteroid injection into the adductor complex and needle tenotomy, both of which are at the discretion of the consulting physician and typically performed under ultrasound guidance.

Occasionally, surgical management is indicated. There are no clear guidelines on which injuries require surgical management. Potential indications include poor recovery with conservative management with full-thickness tears or avulsion injuries with the persistent weakness of the affected limb.

(05-09-2019, 01:41 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:This is a bit of a warning sign IMHO.

McGovern has been doing this all season and given his pre season back problem, its likely he will get hindered by it for the year.

Kreuzer is someone who will push through the pain barrier to play (rumour has it, that he was getting his knee drained after every match one year).

Given they have told us an adductor injury is what forced him out, the only thing we don't know is the severity of the issue and what treatment he has  undertaken.  Expect he will play under duress due to this article I have found:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493166/

Is it any wonder we worry about our footy club?

There is no reason to rush Kreuzer back for this one.  Zero.  Even with him in, we are not a significantly better team, and for gods sake, can we please drop Lochie O Brien and play Kennedy??

(05-09-2019, 02:26 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:EB I made the comment about O'Brien last year after seeing lots of games on TV (not always the best way to judge I acknowledge) but then seeing the game against Brisbane at the GABBA live when he turned it over by foot about 5 times in one quarter. If his kicking was a knock on him prior to the draft, you have to ask yourself, what attributes DID they see that warranted such a high draft pick?

He, along with Dow, probably need a stint in the VFL just to get some confidence back because at the moment it's heart in the mouth stuff for supporters when they get the ball as they just look like a deer caught in the headlights. Setterfield and Kennedy won't have the leg speed but agree we just need some help in there for Cripps and Walsh at the moment as the Pies will target them both heavily this week.

Who gets De Goey this week? He would be licking his lips I reckon at the moment as we have nobody to go with him IMHO.

(05-09-2019, 02:26 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:EB I made the comment about O'Brien last year after seeing lots of games on TV (not always the best way to judge I acknowledge) but then seeing the game against Brisbane at the GABBA live when he turned it over by foot about 5 times in one quarter. If his kicking was a knock on him prior to the draft, you have to ask yourself, what attributes DID they see that warranted such a high draft pick?

(05-09-2019, 03:05 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:..........because he is a top ten pick he will get more chances than most but is looking a bit like Kane Lucas  and that dont doesnt bode well for his future.

(05-09-2019, 03:06 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/beams-in-doubt-for-carlton-clash-20190509-p51ln4.html

(05-09-2019, 03:09 AM)LP link Wrote:WASurfer, O'Brien is/was an elite runner at TAC Cup level, we do not get to see him make much use of it at the moment given the role they have him playing. I cannot comment on the kicking.

In fairness as the kids get through their 1st and 2nd pre-seasons, they build lots of muscle and strength but it initially seems to take a toll on their speed and aerobic capacity. Also they are still beginners at the recovery game, some of the older AFL heads tell you it takes 4 or 5 years to get the art of recovery sorted.

I'm happy to see where this kids goes in another year or two.

Is part of what you see an effect of trying to thread the needle at AFL level, some inexperience around issues like how quickly AFL opponents can cover and close space versus lower levels?

I don't agree on this point, Lucas was a man child while O'Brien is a skinny!