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Re: Casboult to CHB - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-05-2019
(02-04-2019, 10:53 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Just logical that Kerr given a shot at being a KPD - he's the right size, reads the plAY AND is a footballer.
Still only 20. He should be (potentially) groomed to be our Steven May (noting the latter is considrably shorter and lighter).
Big enough to take the gorillas.
He's behind McGovern, Big H, Charlie, Levi and arguably TDK too as a key forward.
By the time he matures - say 23, 24, Jones will be goneski.....
Agree...nothing further to add...
Re: Casboult to CHB - cookie2 - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 12:52 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree...nothing further to add...
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Re: Casboult to CHB - LP - 02-05-2019
Kerr is smaller than many of the other KPD options, but no doubt he has the grunt to go head to head with bigger bodies.
IMHO, it's Kerr's physicality that sees him in good stead, that period he spent rucking at VFL level(while injured) should see him through.
Unlike many fans, I don't want to see Weitering become a gorilla watcher and languishing on the last line of defense, we are not a good kicking side and I think Weitering is quite probably the best kick and decision maker at the club when he's free to do so.
Re: Casboult to CHB - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 02:19 AM)LP link Wrote:Kerr is smaller than many of the other KPD options, but no doubt he has the grunt to go head to head with bigger bodies.
IMHO, it's Kerr's physicality that sees him in good stead, that period he spent rucking at VFL level(while injured) should see him through.
Unlike many fans, I don't want to see Weitering become a gorilla watcher and languishing on the last line of defense, we are not a good kicking side and I think Weitering is quite probably the best kick and decision maker at the club when he's free to do so.
Weitering has put on some beef but I dont see him being a gorilla minder either, his best role is as an intercept defender....Kerr is more naturally inclined to enjoy the physical contact stuff more
and has a bit of mongrel in his game that you cant teach.
Kerr is 197cm and 97kg now which is very adequate for CHB ....
Re: Casboult to CHB - LP - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 02:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Weitering has put on some beef but I dont see him being a gorilla minder either, his best role is as an intercept defender....Kerr is more naturally inclined to enjoy the physical contact stuff more
and has a bit of mongrel in his game that you cant teach.
Kerr is 197cm and 97kg now which is very adequate for CHB ....
I'm yet to see a game plan that can make best use of our playing list, I can't help but feel in recent times we are trading heavily to find "players who fit the plan" rather than "building a plan to fit the players." In this regard I now believe coaching is our weakest link.
Re: Casboult to CHB - flyboy77 - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 02:19 AM)LP link Wrote:Kerr is smaller than many of the other KPD options, but no doubt he has the grunt to go head to head with bigger bodies.
IMHO, it's Kerr's physicality that sees him in good stead, that period he spent rucking at VFL level(while injured) should see him through.
Unlike many fans, I don't want to see Weitering become a gorilla watcher and languishing on the last line of defense, we are not a good kicking side and I think Weitering is quite probably the best kick and decision maker at the club when he's free to do so.
Kerr is 197cm, 97kg and still only 20. Liam Jones is 198cm, Marchy, Weiters, Plow and Goddard all shorter.
Steven May is 193cm, 101kg.
Re: Casboult to CHB - LP - 02-05-2019
Meh, reading through the playing list on the club website throws up some glaring exceptions and anyone who has spent 5 mins on the ground observing at a VFL match will show the reality.
But even so Philips and De Koning taller than McKay who is the same height as Lobbe, or Marchbank listed at roughly the same height as Charlie, Weitering or Macreadie! The only way some of these blokes are measuring roughly the same height is if you put a few of them on a rack before measuring!
Re: Casboult to CHB - Thryleon - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 02:47 AM)LP link Wrote:I'm yet to see a game plan that can make best use of our playing list, I can't help but feel in recent times we are trading heavily to find "players who fit the plan" rather than "building a plan to fit the players." In this regard I now believe coaching is our weakest link.
That's a chicken and egg argument.
What came first the game plan or the players to play it?
The problem we have had, is having too many different types of player, which resulted in having to change the game plan to suit the players. This results in sub optimal performance by a team over a longer period of time, due to having to adjust everything and having players have to change the process to get results.
Everyone knows that the definition of madness is to repeat the same process expecting different results.
Therefore, implement a process (a game plan) and then recruit to suit it, and you will then get repeatable results.
The problem you are therefore seeing is, that we have yet to identify a game plan that we believe can work for us to recruit for.
Stripping it right back, the AFL have created this problem, because they implement rule changes to fix symptom A, which result in symptoms of problem B, C, D, which means that the game keeps changing meaning that clubs have to then change things up to suit new rules.
Moving forward, we need to identify a method of playing football, that is repeatable by the majority of different types of player, in order to come up with a game plan, that is going to be succesful irrespective of what the current rules are, in order to achieve anything. What that means is choosing whom you recruit to suit your game plan and playing group, rather than simply recruiting the best talent available, which is where we have failed in the past.
We put together a group of talented players, that have been lacking in some facets.
Re: Casboult to CHB - Gointocarlton - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 02:02 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:x2x3
Re: Casboult to CHB - cookie2 - 02-05-2019
(02-05-2019, 09:54 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:That's a chicken and egg argument.
What came first the game plan or the players to play it?
The problem we have had, is having too many different types of player, which resulted in having to change the game plan to suit the players. This results in sub optimal performance by a team over a longer period of time, due to having to adjust everything and having players have to change the process to get results.
Everyone knows that the definition of madness is to repeat the same process expecting different results.
Therefore, implement a process (a game plan) and then recruit to suit it, and you will then get repeatable results.
The problem you are therefore seeing is, that we have yet to identify a game plan that we believe can work for us to recruit for.
Stripping it right back, the AFL have created this problem, because they implement rule changes to fix symptom A, which result in symptoms of problem B, C, D, which means that the game keeps changing meaning that clubs have to then change things up to suit new rules.
Moving forward, we need to identify a method of playing football, that is repeatable by the majority of different types of player, in order to come up with a game plan, that is going to be succesful irrespective of what the current rules are, in order to achieve anything. What that means is choosing whom you recruit to suit your game plan and playing group, rather than simply recruiting the best talent available, which is where we have failed in the past.
We put together a group of talented players, that have been lacking in some facets.
I think this is what he successful Hawks did. From what I've read they identified key roles and had the players on the list to play those roles - each one knowing exactly what was expected of them. Wasn't the notice in their rooms "Know your Role!" ?