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Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 06:42 AM)Brettie link Wrote:We're not making finals, the game is of little importance to the Club.......why drop Armfield & deny him a final home game in Melbourne?
Pretty ordinary call by the MC imo.......
x3...Unless Armfield didnt want to play then, I would have left him in...would have thought.. Palmer deserved a game as well given he has been good in the NB's..and played Jaksch too.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 10:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You have a bug up your butt about something. We get it.
1. Senior players playing well need to be playing to instructions....and need to be doing so for an extended amount of time. Without knowing the instructions, or the criteria put on them, you can't say they were overlooked.
2. You don't know, but you take a pot shot anyway.
3. Some people were upset about Fish and/or Houlihan, doesn't mean everyone was, nor does that have anything to do with whats happening now.
Leave my butt out of this, and any bugs therein.
No, I can't say the senior players were overlooked. What I can do is compare a statement made by the coach with match reports from other forum members.
The Fisher/Houihan/Army comparison is perfectly valid.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Thryleon - 08-18-2017
We have no idea why any decisions about why these guys got games or didn't get games were made.
Trying to find links between these guys getting games or not getting games is futile.
Each circumstance was/is different and the only thing they all have in common is that their respective afl careers were ending.
Armfield could play vfl this week but that doesn't mean he was in line for an afl game. It also doesn't prove he wasn't in line either.
You would have to ask Dennis for sure but I can tell you just because someone can get up for a VFL game doesn't mean they feel good about playing in the seniors.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
If folks had the facts and genuine knowledge about the footy club, there would be no need for them to be on here.
If we all knew the facts, this site would be 3 pages long. Speculating, second guessing, theorizing, surmising, is precisely why this site exists, and accounts for almost all its content.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - BluePhantom - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:47 PM)PaulP link Wrote:If folks had the facts and genuine knowledge about the footy club, there would be no need for them to be on here.Never let the truth get in the road of a good story!
If we all knew the facts, this site would be 3 pages long. Speculating, second guessing, theorizing, surmising, is precisely why this site exists, and accounts for almost all its content.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 08-18-2017
Armfield himself has stated in the past he struggled week to week to get himself right for the games, things won't have gotten any better a year later.
It's one thing to get yourself across the line to start at VFL level, and a whole other thing to get yourself right just to be competitive at AFL level.
PS; Is Casey Byrne a potential trade option, could Casey also be calling it quits? Just thinking out loud!
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 08-18-2017
Given that Paddy is like a brother to him, I can't see why. We have also extended his contract.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:55 PM)LP link Wrote:Armfield himself has stated in the past he struggled week to week to get himself right for the games, things won't have gotten any better a year later.
It's one thing to get yourself across the line to start at VFL level, and a whole other thing to get yourself right just to be competitive at AFL level.
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That's all fine.
Im my view, the club should have a farewell policy in place, that may take into consideration form, injury, years of service, farewell games etc. They should publish this on the website as a document that fans and members can refer to.
Additionally, what's wrong with a short 30 second video, also published on CFC, from the retiring player himself ? Nothing flash, just a thanks to the club and fans, and any other explanations etc. as may be required e.g, if they decline to participate in a farewell game. Not all fans can attend games, especially farewell games.
Army has played 144 games for us. He deserves better than punters second guessing whether a game a few weeks ago was his last in Melbourne, or giving him a farewell game in front of a hostile WCE crowd, even if his family is there. Can't the club fly a few of them to Melbourne ?
Those things are signs of a changing, improving culture. Those things are small signs of a club trying to evolve, and really set some sort of a standard.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Gointocarlton - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 10:15 PM)PaulP link Wrote:That's all fine.Perhaps Army wanted his farewell game in WA last week.
Im my view, the club should have a farewell policy in place, that may take into consideration form, injury, years of service, farewell games etc. They should publish this on the website as a document that fans and members can refer to.
Additionally, what's wrong with a short 30 second video, also published on CFC, from the retiring player himself ? Nothing flash, just a thanks to the club and fans, and any other explanations etc. as may be required e.g, if they decline to participate in a farewell game. Not all fans can attend games, especially farewell games.
Army has played 144 games for us. He deserves better than punters second guessing whether a game a few weeks ago was his last in Melbourne, or giving him a farewell game in front of a hostile WCE crowd, even if his family is there. Can't the club fly a few of them to Melbourne ?
Those things are signs of a changing, improving culture. Those things are small signs of a club trying to evolve, and really set some sort of a standard.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 10:33 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Perhaps Army wanted his farewell game in WA last week.
That's fine. Why not let the punters know, via some of the means I suggested above ?