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Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - Jean-Claude - 04-02-2017
Worrying signs are coming from the senior players, hack kicks, still don't kow how to kick to advantage, Murph hospital balls to teammates while the young guys are showing a bit.
Loved Rowe's game and Cripps', Macreadie is showing a bit and looks like there is something there. Like SPS and Pickett as well.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:00 AM)John Corey link Wrote:I don't understand why Gibbs and Murphy don't come under more scrutiny on here. I can understand young kids making bad skill errors but when your leaders are constantly doing it, what hope have we got. Some of Murphy's kicking and handballing was diabolical. First quarter we are on the attack with some quick handpassing and Murphy handballs it directly to a Dee 2 metres away. This is our Captain. And constantly picking the wrong option and handpassing to players who are tackled as soon as they receive it.
And we are behind with time running out and Gibbs kicks across field (instead of down field) and it was never going to get to it's target. Goal. That's another one of our leaders.
I get this year will be frustrating and I also get that the guys gave 100% today. But when our so called 'A Graders' are making these errors, it doesn't set much of an example for the kids to follow.
Armfield was disgraceful.
I think it was the kids and Simpson and Kruezer that kept us in that game.
With you JC....you can add E.Curnow to those players as well....turnovers at critical times too.....I'll add Docherty's non spoil of Garlett to that list too....Garlett being such a strong bodied marking machine...not.
Plowman played very well and being a young player I can forgive him but that missed tackle in the last 10 minutes was also a shocker...think it was Harmes who just waltzed through our blokes and when he got to Plowman he just walked straight through the tackle....hoping next week vs the old enemy will bring out the best of our senior players...
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:00 AM)John Corey link Wrote:I don't understand why Gibbs and Murphy don't come under more scrutiny on here. I can understand young kids making bad skill errors but when your leaders are constantly doing it, what hope have we got. Some of Murphy's kicking and handballing was diabolical. First quarter we are on the attack with some quick handpassing and Murphy handballs it directly to a Dee 2 metres away. This is our Captain. And constantly picking the wrong option and handpassing to players who are tackled as soon as they receive it.Dont worry JC, Murphy, Gibbs and Docherty have not avoided being critiqued on this site. As you say, some of their disposals an decisions (at a critical juncture in the game) were diabolical.
And we are behind with time running out and Gibbs kicks across field (instead of down field) and it was never going to get to it's target. Goal. That's another one of our leaders.
I get this year will be frustrating and I also get that the guys gave 100% today. But when our so called 'A Graders' are making these errors, it doesn't set much of an example for the kids to follow.
Armfield was disgraceful.
I think it was the kids and Simpson and Kruezer that kept us in that game.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - cobra - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 08:18 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Casboult was woeful...a lampost would be more useful...
Armfield...gone
Charlie Curnow...been drinking his own bathwater, needs some tough love in the twos...
Docherty....error ridden, lack of awareness at times mixed with some good stuff..
MacReadie reminds me of Darren Milburn.....going ok
Marchbank...good but with some turnovers by foot..
White...gone
Rowe did the job on Hogan but marking a footy to him is akin to catching a RPG...
Simpson ok...but last season..
Smedts...reliable to a point but needs to do more..
Pickett...like him but needs to do more when he is on..
SPS...learning the game and will be in and out of play
Weitering....learning about playing forward, not his fault delivery is so poor.
Wright.. very effective footballer
Plowman, good all day apart from one poor tackle attempt.
Murphy and Gibbs...ok at times and also turned the footy over badly especially Murphy,,
Kruezer...battled well vs the bigger Gawn.
Ed Curnow..beat Lewis but his disposal is so poor its a 50/50 call on his effectiveness overall IMO..
SOSOS...poor IMO, looked slow and is kicking like Casboult...still young so I shouldnt expect too much but he needs to work harder for his kicks..
Cripps...gun all day, played his best game for a while and easy BOG IMO...
Thomas...couple of good things but just went..
Jack got a big hit to his back. He was probably our best forward in the first quarter. Did well to play the game out. Can't believe how hard you are on our kids. Most have played under ten games. All show signs of being long term players. Blain Boekhorst has speed but no heart. Jack has just turned 19 give him time.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - cookie2 - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:06 AM)Jean-Claude link Wrote:Worrying signs are coming from the senior players, hack kicks, still don't kow how to kick to advantage, Murph hospital balls to teammates while the young guys are showing a bit.
Loved Rowe's game and Cripps', Macreadie is showing a bit and looks like there is something there. Like SPS and Pickett as well.
Agree, pleased with the newer/younger guys. Effort aside, our senior guys are just not good enough though, from what we've already seen. Kreuzer and Simmo went OK but the rest were generally ordinary.
I think BB and the coaching staff know where the root cause of the problems are but also know it will take time to work through them. In fact BB's post game presser provided a few between the lines insights IMO.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - LoveNavy - 04-02-2017
Matty Wright take a bow. Now that's skill and leadership in an inspirational little package. Loved Daisy's hanger, just like old times.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - cookie2 - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:27 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Matty Wright take a bow. Now that's skill and leadership in an inspirational little package. Loved Daisy's hanger, just like old times.
Yes! Matty Wright - forgot to acknowledge his excellent contribution.
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:00 AM)John Corey link Wrote:I don't understand why Gibbs and Murphy don't come under more scrutiny on here. I can understand young kids making bad skill errors but when your leaders are constantly doing it, what hope have we got. Some of Murphy's kicking and handballing was diabolical. First quarter we are on the attack with some quick handpassing and Murphy handballs it directly to a Dee 2 metres away. This is our Captain. And constantly picking the wrong option and handpassing to players who are tackled as soon as they receive it.
And we are behind with time running out and Gibbs kicks across field (instead of down field) and it was never going to get to it's target. Goal. That's another one of our leaders.
I get this year will be frustrating and I also get that the guys gave 100% today. But when our so called 'A Graders' are making these errors, it doesn't set much of an example for the kids to follow.
Armfield was disgraceful.
I think it was the kids and Simpson and Kruezer that kept us in that game.
In respect of Murph and Gibbs, this depends on which forum expert you believe.
Quite apart from that, all players have bad days, form loss etc.
However good or bad their games were, I'm curious to know who folks on here think is our best user of the footy ?
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:30 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes! Matty Wright - forgot to acknowledge his excellent contribution.
x3..Best kick for goal in the team and rarely stuffs up a disposal, probably shows you how strong the Crows list is when
they can dump a player like Wright off their list...
Wouldnt have minded Ricky Henderson either who is doing well for Hawthorn....
Re: 2017 Rd 2: Post Game Postulations: Carlton vs Melbourne - LoveNavy - 04-02-2017
(04-02-2017, 11:27 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Matty Wright take a bow. Now that's skill and leadership in an inspirational little package. Loved Daisy's hanger, just like old times.
I should add. I thought Crippa's kicking looks on the up. In terms of hand/foot ratio and effectiveness. This was another very pleasing aspect of today. Imagine if he can start to increase his effect by foot. I'm starting to think (not that I'd have a clue) his broken leg may have hampered the development of his wheels. We may have exacerbated this with our premature over reliance on the youngster, due to a disastrous list....