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Re: General Discussions - DJC - 04-03-2022 (04-02-2022, 01:46 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:55 new nuke plants being built and plenty more being uprated with 165 uprates in the USA alone. Quote:The USA has 93 operable nuclear reactors, with a combined net capacity of 95.5 GWe. In 2020, nuclear generated 19.7% of the country's electricity.There had been four AP1000 reactors under construction, but two of these have been cancelled. One of the reasons for the hiatus in new build in the USA to date has been the extremely successful evolution in maintenance strategies. Over the last 15 years, improved operational performance has increased utilisation of US nuclear power plants, with the increased output equivalent to 19 new 1000 MWe plants being built. 2016 saw the first new nuclear power reactor enter operation in the country for 20 years. Despite this, the number of operable reactors has reduced in recent years, from a peak of 104 in 2012. Early closures have been brought on by a combination of factors including cheap natural gas, market liberalization, over-subsidy of renewable sources, and political campaigning. To summarise the "facts" provided by the World Nuclear Association for the USA: * There are 93 operable nuclear reactors in the USA. * Four reactors were under construction but two have been cancelled. * Improved maintenance has increased operational performance. * The first new nuclear power plant in over 20 years commenced operation in 2016. * The number of operable reactors has declined from a peak of 104 in 2012 to 93 in 2020. It's interesting to read through the nuclear programs of different nations with Germany set to end nuclear power generation this year and France scaling back to 50% by 2035, while countries like Turkey and Bangladesh are starting construction of their first power plants. However, you do have to treat the World Nuclear Association data with a little caution; Australia is listed as one of about 30 countries that "are considering, planning or starting nuclear power programmes". The Australian situation is covered in more detail, and quite accurately, in another section but our listing in that category is misleading. Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-03-2022 (04-03-2022, 01:17 AM)DJC link Wrote:To summarise the "facts" provided by the World Nuclear Association for the USA:France are planning 14 more nuclear reactors by 2050 according to Macron.France has no oil, no gas and no coal and wants to close it's remaining fossil fuel burning plants. Australia would need about 25 reactors and they take around 10 -15 years to build. You need plenty of water and they need to be near consumers so that's building around the coast plus you need foreign investment from companies and the reality is that will come from China etc who already have a strong ownership in our distribution network. Can't see any Government making the nuke call in Aus and risking the backlash in the short to medium term. Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 04-03-2022 (04-03-2022, 03:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:France are planning 14 more nuclear reactors by 2050 according to Macron.France has no oil, no gas and no coal and wants to close it's remaining fossil fuel burning plants.Need to put on the big boy pants, grow some balls and get on with it. Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 04-03-2022 (04-03-2022, 03:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Can't see any Government making the nuke call in Aus and risking the backlash in the short to medium term.Whether or not Nuclear is the way to go is 1 thing.....and a pretty easy decision IMO. Whether or not the governments do it is another.....and we probably all know the likelyhood of doing the right thing. Re: General Discussions - Mav - 04-04-2022 Interesting article about the impending closure of Eraring, the biggest coal-fired power station in Australia. Renewable power has resulted in the closure being brought forward by 7 years to 2025. Switching off, abc.net.au Quote:For the most part, Eraring workers aren’t angry at Origin Energy. They have seen the rapid rise of renewables like rooftop solar steal the cream off the plant’s profits. And they’ve watched as their power station, which must run continuously, is forced to keep producing when the price of electricity crashes. Quote:For its part, Origin Energy plans to install a battery on the site of Eraring Power station. The article shows how badly the shutdown will affect the workers at the plant and the local businesses which rely upon it. It also notes how well Germany handled the transition from fossil fuel energy generation to renewables and how badly governments handle the transition. The Germans made sure the transition would unfold over 50 years. Our transitions happen almost overnight. But the fact that the power plant is going to be replaced by a battery is a pretty clear indication that nuclear power has no chance of taking off in Australia. The power plant is called Eraring after Lake Eraring, a plentiful supply of water. It also has the facilities to step up power to transmit it to the grid. After all, it supplies 20% of NSW's power. It's also in a regional location, so it wouldn't attract too many NIMBY complaints. I'd imagine the local residents would prefer the power plant to be replaced by another power station that would bring jobs with it, whereas the battery will only involve a construction crew of 128 and only 10 jobs once it's completed. Yallourn is also closing by 2028 and will again be replaced by a battery: Energy Australia to close Yallourn power station early and build 350 megawatt battery, abc.net.au. Re: General Discussions - crashlander - 04-04-2022 Speaking of the Ukraine, I have a better claim to rule the place than Vladimir Vladimirovich has: I have ancestors who ruled the area (including Great Prince Vladimir of the Kievan Rus). Also the Princes of Chernigov (Chernihiv, in Ukrainian). It might be a technicality, but Vladimir Vladimirovich can't know his heritage back more than 4 generations: the Soviets destroyed most of the genealogical information in Russia not long after the Revolution. The idea was to make it impossible for people to claim lineage from the Tsars. I used to work with a Russian lass in one of my earlier schools. She knew nothing of her family history past her grandparents. She thought it was a great joke that I was related the Great Princes of the Kievan Rus. For that matter, so do I. However, I still think I have a better claim: I'm not a homicidal maniac who kills his opponents. Re: General Discussions - capcom - 04-04-2022 Fascinating Crash
Re: General Discussions - DJC - 04-04-2022 (04-03-2022, 03:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:France are planning 14 more nuclear reactors by 2050 according to Macron.France has no oil, no gas and no coal and wants to close it's remaining fossil fuel burning plants. Fourteen more nuclear plants might be according to Macron but the official policy is down to 50% by 2035. That may change if Macron wins another term. Nuclear power plants are regularly constructed within five years now. Of course, there would have to be major legislative change at Commonwealth level as well as some States and Territories and I can't really see that happening. Then there's the Environmental Effects Statement process so, from proposal to production could well take 10-15 years, if the legislative regime changed. I can't see any Australian government allowing PRC investment in nuclear power stations and I suspect that we will be buying back the distribution network before long. Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-04-2022 (04-04-2022, 10:25 AM)Mav link Wrote:Interesting article about the impending closure of Eraring, the biggest coal-fired power station in Australia. Renewable power has resulted in the closure being brought forward by 7 years to 2025.The bottom line is what is driving this is not some almighty love of renewables by the owners....Energy Aust is the Chinese Light and Power company who couldnt give a flying feck about Aus Jobs, people or renewables. Its what makes them the most money for the least possible outlay, controlled by the mega rich Kadoorie clan who also own the Hong Kong Nuclear Investment Company so I wouldnt be getting too comfortable about no nukes down the track. Origin are an listed ASX company and beholding to its shareholders and its two main shareholders are JP Morgans and HSBC Nominees Aus who are all Investment bankers which again is bottom line stuff so they wont be doing whats best for Australia and will be looking after their shareholders and directors. Management have always been diabolical although the new lot seem better than before... An interesting side issue is the bid by the Canadian group Brookfield and Zillionaire Mike Cannon Brooks to takeover AGL and make the dirtiest power company in Aus the greenest by 2030...1st bid knocked back by the AGL board and rightly so but then knocked back the second bid as well. These two entities do have the dough to make fossil fuel power station closures quicker and deliver on the renewable replacement equipment but want the business cheap and the Aus Govts policy is for coal powered plants to run their course. There has to be middle ground in this where Brookefield/Cannon Brookes can guarantee employment for workers who lose their jobs and also make their offer more appealing which in turn who allow Government approval. The Government dont have the money to make this project happen so it needs the money from these other sources and its worth looking at IMO and I'd rather Canadians owning part of the power grid supply than the Chinese. Brookfield already own Ausnet an old employer of mine... Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 04-08-2022 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/how-vladimir-putin-s-war-in-ukraine-is-forcing-his-friends-to-choose-between-russia-and-the-west/ar-AAVYBFs?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=b13af01cc852473eac3e50287f1fb791 Everything old is new again. Byzantine ties being the ones highlighted here. I keep reminding people, to understand the present, history is the best guide we have, and those who ignore it are doomed to repeat it. Its all Roman era politics playing itself out over and over again. |