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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-29-2022

(01-29-2022, 12:03 AM)Mav link Wrote:So, now we have son of Omicron, a variant of the variant. Apparently, it's more transmissible than the original.

I read an article from the UK where the data shows that influenza is more deadly than omricon. Delta by comparison was twice as deadly as influenza. Hopefully the son or cousin of omricon is milder again.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - northernblue - 01-29-2022

(01-29-2022, 12:46 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:I read an article from the UK where the data shows that influenza is more deadly than omricon. Delta by comparison was twice as deadly as influenza. Hopefully the son or cousin of omricon is milder again.

As nice as that thought is, there’s no guarantees.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-29-2022

And unfortunately there's no guarantees there won't be a completely new variant coming along. Omicron has been a bit of a mystery. Scientists didn't see it coming and there are gaps in its family tree. To explain the gaps, there are 2 theories (and may be others):
  1. Covid infected an HIV patient whose suppressed immune system allowed it to mutate over months rather than the usual days.
  2. A human infected an animal with Covid and Covid mutated within that animal population to produce Omicron before animals returned the favour and infected a human with it.

Whatever the reason for Omicron being a surprise to epidemiologists might be, it appears that new mutations can suddenly appear like Captain Kirk transporting down from the Enterprise. Life wasn't meant to be easy, I guess ...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-29-2022

(01-29-2022, 12:46 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:I read an article from the UK where the data shows that influenza is more deadly than omricon. Delta by comparison was twice as deadly as influenza.
I suspect that explanation will be based on percentages.

Be careful of articles that are comparing percentages because there are nowhere near as many Influenza cases as Sars-CoV-2 (Alpha, Delta or Omicron), so as a percentage of cases Sars-CoV-2 Omicron may be less deadly, but on average there are way way more cases of Omicron is far far easy to transmit.

We know when the figures are normalised, which scales the count so they can be directly compared, there are many more deaths from COVID as Influenza, I've read figures as high as 10:1. But it is hard to tell because historical data used for Influenza stats is very poor, and relative to modern Sars-CoV-2 data there haven't been any serious Influenza pandemics in recent decades.

PS; From what I can tell in the last decade Australia's worst Influenza year resulted in about 1000 deaths in a calendar year, across Australia we've had about a 1000 COVID deaths just in the month of January 2022.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 01-29-2022

(01-27-2022, 06:18 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Just reading that it's not Neil Young's call  as to whether or not his music appears on Spotify. Apparently he sold the rights for $150 mill some years ago now! He has subsequently withdrawn his demand it is reported. Who cares? .

Warner Brothers own the rights to Neil Young's music.  They acted on his behalf in pulling his music from Spotify.

Quote:“Before I told my friends at Warner Bros about my desire to leave the Spotify platform, I was reminded by my own legal forces that contractually I did not have the control of my music to do that,” Young wrote on his official website Wednesday. “I want to thank my truly great and supportive record company Warner Brothers – Reprise Records, for standing with me in my decision to pull all my music from Spotify. Thank You!”

Joni Mitchell has also removed her music from Spotify and I would have expected nothing less from her  Smile

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 01-29-2022

(01-29-2022, 03:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:Warner Brothers own the rights to Neil Young's music.  They acted on his behalf in pulling his music from Spotify.

Joni Mitchell has also removed her music from Spotify and I would have expected nothing less from her  Smile

I really don't give a stuff DJ, it's been many a long year since I listened to any of their work and I don't use Spotify. Good luck to both of them and their families. ?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-29-2022

(01-29-2022, 04:47 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:I really don't give a stuff DJ, it's been many a long year since I listened to any of their work and I don't use Spotify. Good luck to both of them and their families. ?
I think the main point isn't the who or what, it's the why and the what if!

Is this the start of the arts majority, who by the way are hurting more than most in the shadow of the pandemic, telling the media platforms that enable the fluffernutters who's stupidity extends everybody's pain, that enough is enough?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-29-2022

Another candidate for the Darwin Award:
Washington State Trooper Who Quit Over Vaccine Mandates Reportedly Dies Of COVID, HuffPost
Quote:Washington State Trooper Robert LaMay, who grabbed headlines when he blew up at Gov. Jay Inslee (D) over vaccine mandates, has died of COVID-19, KIRO news radio reported Friday.

He was 50.

LaMay signed off on his last day on the job on video saying: “Jay Inslee can kiss my ass.”

“We don’t do vaccines,” he told Fox News in an interview last year after he quit, referring to himself and his family. “We don’t do flu shots or any of that stuff.”



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-01-2022

Looks like some of the anti-vaxers in the AFL are going to blink and use the selection of the Novavax option as a "right to choose" get out clause!

Ironic that the same fragments of spike protein that exist in Pfizer or Moderna are somehow OK when it is delivered in different wrapper, regardless if the holdouts can use it as an excuse to get vaccinated then it's all good! But I'm not sure many of them will be convinced if they are truly anti-vax!

The whole issue seems to pivot on allergies, or perceived allergies, like when some vaccines cause problems for vegans because they are based on eggs. Which in itself seems a misunderstood concept in social media, there is a stark difference between an adjuvant and an anaphylactic shock!

Social media confuses an adjuvant, something which increases the bodies immune response, with an allergen that might lead to anaphylactic shock. In reality it should be far more alarming to people if they get no immune response at all, because if you get nothing it is possibly doing nothing!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-01-2022

Sad news for the Wheatley family, I wish them well.

Sometimes it's the simplest observation or question that exposes the lie.

If Joe "The Gish" Rogan and Donald Trump are right about Sars-CoV-2, that a few cheap tablets and a perhaps a costly jab can allegedly cure the flu like disease, then why are filthy rich people like Glenn Wheatley dying of COVID complications?

Are the naysayers going to assert Wheatley, along with a few other millionaires/billionaires, would rather perish, suffer or be disabled than pay for a cure that probably costs them less to buy than the price of a luxury car service?

The truth is all the money in the world buying all the cures you can find won't help the Portsea Private ICU set if it happens that Sars-CoV-2 takes a liking to your genetics!