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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-17-2022

Looks like Novax might have not be allowed to play the French Open either:
Quote:France’s vaccine pass law, approved by parliament on Sunday, will require people to have a certificate of vaccination to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes, cinemas and long-distance trains.

“The rule is simple. The vaccine pass will be imposed, as soon as the law is promulgated, in establishments that were already subject to the health pass,” the ministry said.

“This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice.

“Now, as far as Roland Garros is concerned, it’s in May. The situation may change between now and then and we hope that it will be more favourable. So we’ll see, but clearly there’s no exemption.“
Unless Covid recedes, he'll have to wait for Wimbledon.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-17-2022

My associate in NSW says the shizen is starting to hit the fan up there in the health system, they think they opened up too rapidly, and now things are going backwards.

Parrotsay was sprouting the low deaths as a justification for opening up, and he is apparently back peddling faster than reverse footage of Charlie Chaplin cycling!

The problem is not linear, most of us here knew that, everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand knows it, the lag between opening up, getting lots of new cases in a short period of time, and the chain of deaths looks like it's going to bite them on the ar5e! They haven't respected the math!

I do worry about the removal of border restrictions, apparently exporting relatives to locations that have beds has become "a thing", but the health system is altruistic and won't refuse treatment to the hospital shoppers!

PS: Code Brown for Vic, does that mean it's shit yourself time?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-18-2022

It's only a few percent, you hear and read that often.

It's only a few percent more contagious, it's a few percent less deadly, the vaccines have a few percent less efficacy.

Such is the tale of Omicron, the latest UK data suggests Omicron transmission is up about 10% relative to Delta, up from 21% to 31%. Just 10%, it's not much at all, and yet!

It's amazing what impact a few percent can have, and this is happening under reduced, partial and self-imposed lockdowns, yet there are still pundits asking for things to be thrown wide open, if they do it won't be a few percent, the health system pain will be 2x or 3x the current problem!

What does 2x or 3x look like if what we currently experience is the result of just a 10% change?

Humans are awful at evaluating risk, personal opinion is worthless, while the math is effectively a god despite the derision of the science on social media. A 10% increase in the risk of transmission, a removal of some or all restrictions because we perceive Omicron as less deadly, and we are in our current situation with far more people hurting than ever happened under lockdowns! But the Feds think they will save a dollar, hoorah! Wink Well, that saving seems to be evaporating by the second, too many dodgy economic hypotheses from economic B-Graders again, we suffer this over and over again, while the politicians pork barrel billion$ people can't get a cheap lateral flow test and health workers can't get PPE or masks, all could be solved for the price of a carpark it seems, ............. and yet! :o

The good news is, well perhaps bad news if you are an anti-vaxer, it looks like for any vaccine the 3rd booster is delivering massive efficacy, not only against severe symptoms but also increased prevention, much of the data suggesting between 85% and 98% efficacy for the 3rd shot for any brand of vaccine!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 01-18-2022

The fallout from this mess will be incalculable.  That state by state bitching just as bad



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 01-19-2022

(01-17-2022, 03:40 AM)DJC link Wrote:My three grandsons all have COVID.  The eldest has had two vaccinations and the younger two were booked in for their first vaccinations this week  :Smile  They each have slightly different symptoms but basically similar to common cold symptoms.

My daughter and son in law, both triple vaxxed, haven't tested positive ... yet. 

They were supposed to come to our place for a family gathering yesterday but pulled out when the boys developed symptoms.

My daughter and son in law now have COVID too; just mild cold symptoms.

My daughter says the boys are well enough to wrestle and make a lot of noise  ;D

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-19-2022

Here's 2 articles about combatting Omicron:
The Age article is from Liam Mannix who IMO is a brilliant science reporter.

The Salon article reveals Pfizer is releasing an Omicron-specific vaccine in March.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Lods - 01-19-2022

My three  and a half year old grandson calls it "The Sickness".
He doesn't know a world where folks dont regularly mask up.
He doesn't know a world without Covid.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-19-2022

(01-19-2022, 01:46 AM)Lods date Wrote:My three  and a half year old grandson calls it "The Sickness".
He doesn't know a world where folks dont regularly mask up.
He doesn't know a world without Covid.
It must give you a reason to persist, so that you can show your Grandson the beauty of the world as it should be!

This impact of the pandemic on your grandson is in my opinion the worst of the worst.

I care nothing for the bleating adults who wail over their lost privileges, they can't have a pint, they have to stay home and cook, the gym is closed and Pilates is cancelled, shallow wails that expose a world of self-importance and narcissism!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 01-19-2022

My 7yo got his first jab yesterday. No issues.

I'm trying to book my booster now, website is buckling under the pressure and i can't get through!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-19-2022

(01-19-2022, 02:15 AM)kruddler date Wrote:My 7yo got his first jab yesterday. No issues.

I'm trying to book my booster now, website is buckling under the pressure and i can't get through!
Not sure what you had before, but if it was Pfizer or AZ then try / consider getting Moderna for this one, there is growing evidence that the Moderna booster in combination with the others is delivering the best broad spectrum efficacy.

Rough figures I've seen touted;
Az-Az-Az = 75%
Pfizer-Pfizer-Pfizer = 85%
Az-Az-Pfizer = 85%
Pfizer-Pfizer-Az=83%
Az/Pfizer - Az/Pfizer - Moderna = 94%