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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-15-2022
(01-15-2022, 08:13 AM)DJC link Wrote:Folk here on the Bellarine Peninsula are reporting that they're getting their PCR test results within 24 hours. The pressure on the system must have eased.
Mother in law got tested on Monday, still waiting.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Lods - 01-15-2022
(01-15-2022, 08:13 AM)DJC link Wrote:Folk here on the Bellarine Peninsula are reporting that they're getting their PCR test results within 24 hours. The pressure on the system must have eased.The introduction of RAT testing should have had an effect on reducing waiting times for PCRs but...
People are fed up with waiting for hours in a queue....knowing that there is no guarantee of a quick...or as has been seen 'no' result
RAT test are offered as an alternative....but you can't get them without great difficulty
I suspect some folks have reached the point where they feel a bit abandoned and left to their own devices.
It becomes dangerous when caught in this type of limbo because rather than getting tested when they should, people are waiting until their symptoms become more entrenched, or obvious.
I think a lot of these folks are still conscious of the need to stay home and as such are self isolating but they're putting themselves at risk of accessing help much later than they should.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 01-15-2022
Mum caught covid last Saturday with the rest of the people they went out for dinner with.
The ones that got tested at the deakin uni testing site didn't get their results or have had to wait 6 days.
My sisters in laws got tested in Coburg and got a positive result 14 hours later (they were at dinner with mum).
Everyone had the same symptoms. My sister never registered a positive result, and waiting 6 days for her pcr result (negative) but when I spoke to her she had severe covid symptoms (more like glandular fever or tonsillitis for 48 hours) which were identical to mums symptoms (MUM tested positive on a RAT).
This is what it is, but keep these experiences in mind when people start looking to places like India for statistics on covid cases, vaccines, positives and etc.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 01-16-2022
Back to the Djokovic case for a moment.
Taking his name out of the equation, the whole episode is a bit concerning.
A person applies for a visa, and is granted entry.
Upon arrival there is an issue with paperwork vis type et al, and the visa is cancelled.
The case goes to a judicial tribunal, and a judgement call is made weighing up all the details and ruling in favour of the person who was deemed to have done what was required and the visa reinstated.
A politician has elected to cancel the visa because its in public interest to do so.
Forgetting Djokovic for a moment we have an example of another tennis player who was allowed in on same travel visa and only detained upon his arrival which speaks for the fact that the regulations aren't clear and the visa decision a bit of a misnomer.
I dont really like the sound of this. The majority of the justification seems to sit in territory of we have been locked down and he should be too. Mranwhile when Anastasia went to Tokyo last year we barely could visit people in their own homes, and when scomo went to the g8 summit in the UK, I believe we might have been in lockdown.
I have issues with all of this, and the genre public service response. Some hyper aggressive adherence to rules and regulations that are a bit dehumanised in all of. I know of staff who have medical exemptions from getting the vaccine based on clear side effects (Bells Pawlsy) which has resulted in her not being allowed to work in her job in elective surgery any more, and required to work from home.
I know of another mum who has been terminated in lieu of early maternity leave because thats the rule. Get vaccinated or don't. She was a high risk pregnancy and there was no ifs buts or maybes. She even said I won't return until fully vaccinated and no early mat leave was allowed.
There are a lot of elements of we can enforce the rules in a much better fashion which doesn't result in the ostracising of people. Not all work for everyone and some people like Novak and Liam Jones have to suffer the consequences of not getting vaccinated, but there is an element of mismanagement going on here that is being swept by. I dont like that.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-16-2022
(01-16-2022, 12:44 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Not all work for everyone and some people like Novak and Liam Jones have to suffer the consequences of not getting vaccinated, but there is an element of mismanagement going on here that is being swept by. I dont like that.My only problem with all this is that lawyers profit in the margins and actively look for them, but those marginal advantages are not available to Joe Average.
Today, we effectively have a full bench sitting in judgement of a potential tennis match on their day off!
For me the Pub Test is would Joe Average get the same advantages and treatment? I think the answer in all cases is clearly not, and your work associates are a prime example, I'm not sure what can be done about that it's a matter of privilege, some have it and some don't!
My understanding is there has already been more than one person, a minor player and a coach deported in this manner, but they are not Djoker. The lawyers never come to their defence, I suppose there was no money in it!
On a separate issue, nobody could seriously believe Djoker's anti-vaccine attitude has changed, that assertion is made by his lawyers as a justification for him being allowed to stay, it is a joke and unprovable because it's opinion/speculation, but because of the falsified paperwork by he or his entourage it's clear beyond doubt he or they have a willingness for deception on his behalf.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 01-16-2022
^^ Lawyers are lawyers.
They're a necessary evil who argue about legalities so the rest of us don't need to worry about the ins and outs of everything.
The rest is just details.
The details are important, but in terms of your pub test I know of as many people who will argue for Novak as I do who would argue against him, and where you sit is a choice made on many factors.
My wife herself stated that if she needed to be vaccinated to watch him, he should be vaccinated to play, and I simply stated to her that whether or not someone is vaccinated shouldn't be anyone's business but their own.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 01-16-2022
(01-16-2022, 07:19 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:My wife herself stated that if she needed to be vaccinated to watch him, he should be vaccinated to play, and I simply stated to her that whether or not someone is vaccinated shouldn't be anyone's business but their own.
Yes and no.
Victorians are sick of being told to follow the rules and jump through hoops. Finally we are (almost) all on the same page and doing the right thing......and then some privileged primadonna comes in and wants to challenge all that.
There is a right way and a wrong way to go about things, and his selfish, stuck up 'look at me out partying all over the world' vibe is something that we won't stand for.
So you wanna rub it in peoples faces, then suffer the consequences.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 01-16-2022
Unaminous ruling ... can't dismiss that too easily.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-16-2022
I'm ashamed to be an Australian today, wish I never became a citizen.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-16-2022
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/01/14/pastor-djokovic-attend-two-week-aust-open-church-youth-camp/