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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 02:59 AM)LP link Wrote:I see, math is crap.

I didn't write that.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 03:30 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:I didn't write that.
There is no escaping what is implied in the written word, the reader is free to infer the meaning of all that is written.

Some authors even do so deliberately, playing in the margins of ambiguity.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-13-2022

Move over Ivermectin, the new kid on the block is Cannabis! Looks like some compounds in Cannabis help to bind the virus, but unfortunately they degrade at high temperatures so a blunt or bong probably won't do the trick:  Could cannabis prevent COVID? To the authors of a new study, it sure looks like it, Salon.

Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson is trying to push Viagra as the new Ivermectin. I'd try both although together they probably tend to cancel out.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-13-2022

Cannabis and Viagra there's a combination, it might not cure COVID but who the feck cares!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-13-2022

Not really useful information, but it fits this thread.

Some interesting argy bargy in research chat circles overnight, with some suggesting there is now clear evidence Omicron is not universally infective, it seems that certain blood types / ethnicities are vastly under-represented in the ICU.

It is seen by a significant segment of the research community as "politically unfashionable" to even talk about, they vehemently oppose the idea, I suppose that is the friendly description of the differences.

Proponents of the hypothesis think discussing it is critical, because it could lead to the fastest gold standard cure/treatment!

You can imagine how divisive it could become if someone was labelled / identified as having special anti-COVID genes, it would be an automatic class distinction, so it's understandable that some widely oppose the concept, but they might not be able to prove it's wrong.

It could be a wtf moment for some people, but is it real or is it fake?

I'll pop into the sunglass shops on the way home and buy some polaroids!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 02:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:You're not even debating my point.

With all due respect MBB, your point has been debated, many times over.
I'm not sure if you miss the replies, don't take them in, or are just stirring the pot, but it has been answered.

I provided an answer previously in relation to you asking about the numbers of infections of vaccinated people are higher than anti-vaxers.
It went something along the lines of this....

Yes, more people who are vaccinated are testing positive to Covid compared to unvaccinated.
However, More people die every year from horses and cows than die from lions. Does that mean that lions are less dangerous? Or does that mean the sheer weight of numbers of horses and cows 'skew' the data.
Its all relative.


Now, same can be said with vaccinated vs unvaxed and the likelyhood of it being passed on.
You are more likely to get it from a vaccinated person than an unvaccinated person, partially because there are a whole lot less unvaccinated people that you actually can come in contact with.

Firstly, the new strain is making the vaccine less effective (not useless, just LESS effective). So even if it only stops 10% (or whatever % Omicron is) of people from getting it (compared to 70% or whatever the other strains were), it is definitely still worth getting it.

Secondly, the other benefit is what you pass on (as a vaxxed person) is slightly less severe than had you not been vaxxed as well. Which makes it worth it as well.

Finally, its less than ideal, but there is an effect that you cannot ignore.....well you seem to be trying, but you shouldn't ignore it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 05:11 AM)LP link Wrote:I'll pop into the sunglass shops on the way home and buy some polaroids!
Polaroids?

Ray Bans?? They Live?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 05:40 AM)kruddler link Wrote:With all due respect MBB, your point has been debated, many times over.
I'm not sure if you miss the replies, don't take them in, or are just stirring the pot, but it has been answered.

I provided an answer previously in relation to you asking about the numbers of infections of vaccinated people are higher than anti-vaxers.
It went something along the lines of this....

Yes, more people who are vaccinated are testing positive to Covid compared to unvaccinated.
However, More people die every year from horses and cows than die from lions. Does that mean that lions are less dangerous? Or does that mean the sheer weight of numbers of horses and cows 'skew' the data.
Its all relative.


Now, same can be said with vaccinated vs unvaxed and the likelyhood of it being passed on.
You are more likely to get it from a vaccinated person than an unvaccinated person, partially because there are a whole lot less unvaccinated people that you actually can come in contact with.

Firstly, the new strain is making the vaccine less effective (not useless, just LESS effective). So even if it only stops 10% (or whatever % Omicron is) of people from getting it (compared to 70% or whatever the other strains were), it is definitely still worth getting it.

Secondly, the other benefit is what you pass on (as a vaxxed person) is slightly less severe than had you not been vaxxed as well. Which makes it worth it as well.

Finally, its less than ideal, but there is an effect that you cannot ignore.....well you seem to be trying, but you shouldn't ignore it.

Exactamundo.

Perhaps if we could see the % of fully vaxxed folks hospitalised vs unvaxxed hospitalised with C19 (Delta or Omicron) it would reveal a rather telling story (I've already heard it is heavily skewed to unvaxxed... to be hospitalised). I don't know where to find such figures ...cue the Spotted One! Wink  ;D

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-13-2022

If you didn't like Victoria's lockdowns, at least they weren't lightning lockdowns as practised in China. Here's a story about what I assume is a "leftover girl" (i.e. a woman over 26 who parents fear will never find a husband) whose parents organised 10 blind dates for her. One of her dates invited her over to show off what he thought were his brilliant culinary skills but during the meal the Government locked down his locality. She ended up in a 4-day-long 1st date with him, made all the more awkward given she described him as "mute as a wooden mannequin"!
Woman Stuck At Blind Date’s House After Swift COVID Lockdown In China, HuffPost.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-13-2022

(01-13-2022, 06:02 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Exactamundo.

Perhaps if we could see the % of fully vaxxed folks hospitalised vs unvaxxed hospitalised with C19 (Delta or Omicron) it would reveal a rather telling story (I've already heard it is heavily skewed to unvaxxed... to be hospitalised). I don't know where to find such figures ...cue the Spotted One! Wink  ;D
(01-12-2022, 08:07 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Also whenever I say the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it there is no need to preach to me about deaths and hospitalisations. I have stated numerous times that I'm pro vaccine and that they save lives. Our own lives.