(01-10-2022, 05:30 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:You don't have to like him, you don't have to empathise with the Serbs.  You don't have to like them either (in my experience, most anglo saxons, hate people from the balkans anyway)  but to label someone who went through that, white male and privliged??
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If you didnt see war in your nation when you were 12, you cant comment here and call him privileged.

(01-10-2022, 10:53 AM)Mav link Wrote:I'm guessing you're well aware I never used the label white male privilege. Whatever p!ssing contest you and LP are having over that, leave me out of it.

If you look back at my posts, you'll see I had a go at the privilege rich tennis superstars exercise. I cited 2 examples: Djokovic & Serena Williams. You'll note there's no through line there when it comes to being white males. 

As for the notion being a child witness to bombings in your youth gives you lifelong immunity from being regarded as privileged, my counter-example is Queen Elizabeth II who was in Buckingham Palace when it was bombed by the Germans and lived through the Blitz well aware of the toll it was taking on Londoners. She was about 14. Would it be outrageous to consider her privileged? (Edit: Queen Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth II's mother, was the one who was present; the then princess and her sister were sent to the country).

No one's suggesting Novak was privileged when he was a child, but he sure is now.

Quote:White privilege is a social phenomenon intertwined with race and racism.[1] The American Anthropological Association states that, "The 'racial' worldview was invented to assign some groups to perpetual low status, while others were permitted access to privilege, power, and wealth."[19] Although the definition of "white privilege" has been somewhat fluid, it is generally agreed to refer to the implicit or systemic advantages that people who are deemed white have relative to people who are not deemed white. Not having to experience suspicion and other adverse reactions to one's race is also often termed a type of white privilege.[2]

(01-10-2022, 08:16 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:The whole point of being privileged is to have been born into your success, safety and a position of privilege.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

This term doesn't apply to people from the Balkans. 

Quote:If you don’t believe Djokovic misused an escape clause this year, have a close read of the ATAGI protocols that were co-opted to his case. The relevant clause allows an exemption for someone with “PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, where vaccination can be deferred until six months after the infection”.

That’s deferred, not refused point-blank. Deferred, not laughed in the face of. As noted by former ATAGI chair Allen Cheng, it is meant to apply to people in Australia who when safe can have the vaccine. It is not meant to provide a PPE-lined avenue into the country for those who have no intention of being inoculated, now, later or ever.

Think about it for a moment: the way to get around Australia’s COVID-19 public health protection protocols is to get COVID-19. Just head down to your local dance club, take a few deep breaths, pop into your nearest PCR shop on the way home and voila!

Does anybody truly believe that Djokovic is claiming exemption now on the basis that he will dutifully have a jab in six months when the scales fall from his eyes? That’s Novak Djokovic, globally known virulent vaccination opponent – sceptic won’t do, because his mind is not open on this. Djokovic, blithe COVID-19 fellow-traveller? Djokovic, family-anointed leader of the free world? Jab-free, that is.