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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 12:24 AM)capcom link Wrote:I agree ... we jumped too early.  The case numbers are staggering and I certainly have no faith in the accuracy of the reported numbers any longer from many many countries. 

Best wishes to your family members EB.
Thanks mate..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-07-2022

(01-06-2022, 11:29 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/talented-powerlifter-and-scientist-identified-as-young-man-who-died-with-covid-20220107-p59mht.html

Another reason to get the booster.
People in general are not taking this Omicron variant seriously, they are assessing risk under the old fake media parameters in which Sars-CoV-2 was alleged not to be very serious for kids. That was never true and Omicron is different/worse for kids and youth, maybe it's milder for adults in the long term, the scientists have been telling us this for weeks and weeks and nobody in the mainstream media is listening.

The media is full of and run by adults and old people, taking a very selfish perspective and basically throwing kids and youth to the wolves!

All the premises about COVID being mild and not serious for kids are bullcrap, and completely ignore the potential long term non-lethal effects of getting Sars-CoV-2 infection. The foolish "COVID doesn't affect kids" perspective is built on the false premise that "If it's non-lethal it's OK!"

Despite being not as frequent the potential serious side-effects of COVID for youth and children are every bit as acute as Chicken Pox, Mumps, Measles or Rubella!

Don't listening to Facebook, Tik Tok or Instagram, they don't care about your kids, they only care about clicks!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Macca37 - 01-07-2022

Just to let everyone know there is a nasty, non-covid virus out in the community at the moment.

My wife and I had our booster shots on 20 December.  On 28 December we became ill, showing all of the covid symptoms except for not having a temperature.  The results of two RAT tests for each of us were negative, but we are still too ill to leave home.

Our daughter has told us that a friend of hers in her forties, double vaccinated, has been ill with the same symptoms since Christmas Day and has also tested negative.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 02:12 AM)Macca37 date Wrote:Just to let everyone know there is a nasty, non-covid virus out in the community at the moment.

My wife and I had our booster shots on 20 December.  On 28 December we became ill, showing all of the covid symptoms except for not having a temperature.  The results of two RAT tests for each of us were negative, but we are still too ill to leave home.

Our daughter has told us that a friend of hers in her forties, double vaccinated, has been ill with the same symptoms since Christmas Day and has also tested negative.
Yep, [member=40]Macca37[/member] I can confirm this, I have contacts suffering the very same, nasty cough, sore throat, congestion, loss of appetite, multiple negative COVID tests. Our local Chemist was the first to alert us to it, but they don't want to make a big deal about it because they still want people to make sure they get COVID tested if the have such symptoms.

I don't need to remind people the health authorities have been warning of this, nature deplores a vacuum and the pandemic has left a gaping hole for a new flu or some other virus to slot into!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 02:51 AM)LP link Wrote:Yep, [member=40]Macca37[/member] I can confirm this, I have contacts suffering the very same, nasty cough, sore throat, congestion, loss of appetite, multiple negative COVID tests. Our local Chemist was the first to alert us to it, but they don't want to make a big deal about it because they still want people to make sure they get COVID tested.
Not sure how accurate it is but i've heard reports that omicron is better detected via a saliva swab and the up the nose ones are coming back negative, even if the patient has it.

Could explain a few things with people being sick, but negative.

Not sure how accurate any of that is though.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 02:54 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Not sure how accurate it is but i've heard reports that omicron is better detected via a saliva swab and the up the nose ones are coming back negative, even if the patient has it.

Could explain a few things with people being sick, but negative.

Not sure how accurate any of that is though.
The tests I've seen people using require you to swab both the nasal cavity and the back of the throat.

The drive through tests have always been like that.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 01-07-2022

(01-06-2022, 11:04 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Similar could've been said about a former world number 1 who came back from cancer to reclaim his title.

I'm not sure if tennis players are on the same gear as cyclists, Lance Armstrong says hi, but it's hardly done with just diet and hard work.
Maria Sharapova was on something legal for a decade before it was banned.

Personal or not, don't put these athletes up on a pedestal, you will be disappointed.

I don't idolise people very flippantly.

In fact, my idolatry of sports stars wanes the more money involved in becoming the greatest there is.  It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.  Very difficult to become the world number 1, but when you get there, the dollars for simply being there can sustain you at the top (ala Hawks, and recruiting players cheaply during their recent reign).


Nobody should have lost their livelihood over these choices, and this recent Novak flip flop makes the government look like the rabble they are.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 02:54 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Not sure how accurate it is but i've heard reports that omicron is better detected via a saliva swab and the up the nose ones are coming back negative, even if the patient has it.

Could explain a few things with people being sick, but negative.

Not sure how accurate any of that is though.

I know someone who did a rapid test and a PCR within an hour of each other and the rapid was  negative but the PCR came back positive.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 01-07-2022

Macca, the flu is going to rebound now the lockdowns have ended. Despite the anti-vaxxers arguing that Covid is no worse than the flu and behaving as if the flu is no worse than a paper cut, the reality is that flu can be a serious disease. Unfortunately, there's also the Flurona which is where someone catches both the flu and covid. Best wishes on a swift recovery for your wife and yourself.

Interesting comments from Abul Rivzi, a former Deputy Secretary of the Department of Immigration:  Why stopping Djokovic at airport was worst outcome for all,, 9News.

He notes that the Govt blew 2 opportunities to stop Djokovic before he arrived in Australia: 1. They should have refused the visa instead of granting it, & 2. Australian Border Force staff would have been supervising the boarding of the flight in Dubai (?) and should have pulled Djokovic out of the queue or off the plane.

Quote:Mr Rizvi said intercepting and turning people around at the border "should only be done in absolute emergencies or when there has been dramatic changes in circumstances or some other alarming thing has happened."

Djokovic might then be able to rely on an administrative law principle: he had a legitimate expectation that he would be admitted to Australia and undertook a lengthy flight in reliance on that expectation.

Mr Rivzi hit the nail on the head when he pretty much described Scotty from Marketing's MO in dealing with fiascos:

Quote:If Djokovic wins his appeal, the Government could appeal that ruling.
However, if Djokovic wins, Mr Rizvi said the Government will probably "let it go from that point and look to blame somebody else".


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 01-07-2022

(01-07-2022, 04:04 AM)Mav link Wrote:Australian Border Force staff would have been supervising the boarding of the flight in Dubai (?) and should have pulled Djokovic out of the queue or off the plane.

THAT would be an international airport first.  Don't believe it for a second