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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 12-23-2021

Mask mandate is back in Vic from midnight tonight. Masks indoors and outdoors in crowds of 30000 or more (except where seated). Seems the exception for seated patrons pretty much means the Boxing Day Test crowd won't have to mask.

By the way, that means the worst-case scenario posited by the Doherty Institute is now off the table as it was premised on governments and individuals making no attempts to stop the spread. Here's an article from The Age which analyses how such "predictions" should be interpreted:  Scary numbers and worst-case scenarios: Why modelling is not a forecast.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 12-23-2021

The UK which is about the size of Victoria and has a population of 67 million just hit 100,000 cases in a day.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 12-23-2021

NSW is already at 47% of that UK new cases figure after adjusting for population.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 12-23-2021

Parrottsay lifted the lid on this shizen by effectively forcing removal of restrictions nationally, he must thinks he's Russell Crow!

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Instead he rode us blind into a tree full of hollow promises, now the whole country is going to suffer!

As much as he is hated, sitting at home there in WA Premier Mark McGowan must have a glib smile today, he's got bugger all COVID to deal with and a wallet full of Eastern Australian GST to spend! But he won't escape COVID, he can only delay things and hope technology catches the COVID cure before it migrates to Perth. WA Winter is coming!

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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 12-23-2021

Good  (and bad) news out of the UK: Omicron hospital risk is up to 70 per cent lower than Delta, UK says,, The Age.

The good news is that:
Quote:An individual with Omicron is 50 per cent to 70 per cent less likely to be admitted to hospital, compared with the Delta strain, the UK Health Security Agency said on Thursday (local time). They are also between 31 per cent and 45 per cent less likely to attend emergency departments with Omicron than with Delta.


The bad news is that:
Quote:However, data from the HSA also showed that while a booster improves protection, it starts to wane more rapidly than with Delta, and is 15 per cent to 25 per cent lower from 10 weeks after the third dose.

The agency also cautioned that the highly infectious nature of the variant could still lead to significant numbers of severe illness that squeeze the health service. Daily cases in the UK soared to a record of 119,789 on Thursday, piling pressure on Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who is waiting until after Christmas to make a final decision on new possible restrictions.
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It’s still unclear how the decreasing booster effect will factor into protection against severe disease. The current round of booster shots may still protect people from being hospitalised or getting severely ill, even as defence against infection wanes. UK officials want to see how that data develops before recommending a fourth dose, or moving toward a vaccine modified for Omicron.
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Israel has already announced it will give people aged over 60 a fourth dose over fears that a booster that has not been administered within the last three to four months has lower protection against Omicron.

It'll take time to figure out whether Omicron ends up being better or worse for us than Delta. Which will have the upper hand: the increased transmissibility and vaccine evasiveness or the decreased virulence? Unfortunately, we'll have to wait until the picture becomes clearer. But for now we can still hope that Omicron will be more like the flu. Footy season 2022 might still see a return to normal.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 12-24-2021

(12-23-2021, 08:55 PM)Mav link Wrote:Good  (and bad) news out of the UK: Omicron hospital risk is up to 70 per cent lower than Delta, UK says,, The Age.

The good news is that:

The bad news is that:
It'll take time to figure out whether Omicron ends up being better or worse for us than Delta. Which will have the upper hand: the increased transmissibility and vaccine evasiveness or the decreased virulence? Unfortunately, we'll have to wait until the picture becomes clearer. But for now we can still hope that Omicron will be more like the flu. Footy season 2022 might still see a return to normal.

A pipe dream.

We are going to have minimal lockdowns but maximum impact on playing lists.

The English premier league have already resxheduled 20 odd matches over the last few weeks with the latest casualty being Liverpool vs leeds tomorrow night.

Worth remembering these guys have deep squads, and heavy fixturing lists, but either way they still have trouble fielding teams with the ability to dip into their under 19 cohorts.

Liverpool played Tottenham with no less than 3 first choice players out because they returned a positive test on match day.  From an already depleted midfield through injury and suspension they started an 18 year old I've never heard of before. 

Unless we stop testing and revert to clinical presentations only, we are going to see bedlam next season as teams lose players to covid.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 12-24-2021

We have to pin our hopes on the "burnout" theory: Omicron will rip through the population causing widespread infection (The Age had a headline that 10% of Londoners are infected with it now) but then it burns out just as quickly as it developed. One figure thrown around is it will take 2 months. That would do nicely for the AFL. Maybe it nixes the preseason comp, but who cares about that? Edit: It would, however, pretty much kill the AFLW season, so that's not great.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 12-24-2021

The other thing is that Covid protocols might change as we learn more about the Omicron variant. It's wise to be cautious before enough data accumulates, but when that happens it may become apparent that we can treat it like the flu (i.e. a player who tests positive withdraws but doesn't take close contacts with him).

What we shouldn't do is shoot from the hip and draw that conclusion before the data is in. 


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 12-25-2021

(12-24-2021, 11:55 PM)Mav date Wrote:The other thing is that Covid protocols might change as we learn more about the Omicron variant. It's wise to be cautious before enough data accumulates, but when that happens it may become apparent that we can treat it like the flu (i.e. a player who tests positive withdraws but doesn't take close contacts with him).

What we shouldn't do is shoot from the hip and draw that conclusion before the data is in.
As long as people respect sensible protocols and avoid putting our hospital staff and hospitals to the sword!

But I fear the hospital queues will be full to the brim with naysayers, it seems to be regret drives forward as many cases as the virus! Wink


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 12-25-2021

(12-25-2021, 04:17 AM)LP link Wrote:As long as people respect sensible protocols and avoid putting our hospital staff and hospitals to the sword!

But I fear the hospital queues will be full to the brim with naysayers, it seems to be regret drives forward as many cases as the virus! Wink

Not quite hospital queues, yet, but testing sites have been turning people away due to the sheer numbers of people wanting to be tested.

If people can't get tested, and can't find out if they've got it, what hope do we have of containing it?