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Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 03:09 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I agree. That the club will chase Clarkson hard is practically a foregone conclusion. It's really whether :I'd say Coll are the front runner. Despite recent turmoil, they have been a stable club of the years, are arguably the biggest club in town and will be able to throw massive coin at him and are ready to appoint today if they needed to.
a. Clarkson wants to coach, and
b. whether he wants to coach us.
Neither of which seem very clear at this point.
Re: Review - Professer E - 07-30-2021
Don't say I didn't warn you people... If it's said in a Whorethorn presser, take it with a grain of salt.
Re: Review - Thryleon - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 03:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'd say Coll are the front runner. Despite recent turmoil, they have been a stable club of the years, are arguably the biggest club in town and will be able to throw massive coin at him and are ready to appoint today if they needed to.
Yet they have spoiled the apple cart big time with their salary cap. If rumours are to be believed, the Pies highest paid player this season isnt even playing for them!! AND they still have De Goey, and Grundie.
Re: Review - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 03:53 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'd say Coll are the front runner. Despite recent turmoil, they have been a stable club of the years, are arguably the biggest club in town and will be able to throw massive coin at him and are ready to appoint today if they needed to.Graham Wright is running Footy at Hawthorn, not sure that relationship was all that sweet when he left Hawthorn to join the Pies unless its all part of some big master plan.
Got to laugh at Maynard and crew hanging out with the excuse they want to see who the next coach is.....and of course fielding offers so they can screw more money out of the already bulging Pies cap.
Brad Scott was a former assistant from memory at the Pies and was well liked...IMO out of him and Clarko.....
Re: Review - LP - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 05:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Graham Wright is running Footy at Hawthorn, not sure that relationship was all that sweet when he left Hawthorn to join the Pies unless its all part of some big master plan.The media can't have it both ways, they are still asserting the Filth initiated the Mitchell offer as a way of ultimately securing either one of Mitchell or Clarkson.
Re: Review - laj - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 03:46 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Results under a particular coach are about a lot more than just the coach's ability. It's not even remotely possible that we keep picking coaches with no ability. The various ideas thrown around (this coach is motivated by the wrong things, that coach is out of his depth, the game has passed him by, lost the fire in the belly etc.) have, when it comes to Carlton, all been discredited.
When judging our last 20 years, you can't pick and choose which coach sacking / hiring decisions are correct and which are not, based on whether or not you like the guy in charge. Teague's results are better because the conditions around him are better (Bolton did all the donkey work plus more list stability under Teague, plus better players, plus players who were too young under Bolts are starting to hit their peak) etc. The expectations on Teague were higher because the conditions around him improved.
As an aside, you'd really have to suspect the club is full of inbreeders when the two coaches who have had any kind of "success" are ex players.
Results tell you alot. Bolton had 4 wins from his last 43 games. That's not donkey work, that is just a donkey. No fool in their right mind keeps a coach with a 9% record from his last 50 games no matter what our culture is like. That's just embracing failure.
Re: Review - PaulP - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 06:26 AM)laj link Wrote:Results tell you alot. Bolton had 4 wins from his last 43 games. That's not donkey work, that is just a donkey. No fool in their right mind keeps a coach with a 9% record from his last 50 games no matter what our culture is like. That's just embracing failure.
Lethal has believed for a long time that good players make good coaches. I'll give you a small sample of what Bolton had to work with : Mullett, O'Shea, Matt Shaw, Gorringe, Smedts, Palmer, Lamb, Sumner, Fasolo...........I could go on. Plus clearing out the junk from the Malthouse era, plus factor in virtually no leadership, plus 12-15 changes every season, with average list age getting younger every year, plus change CEO, change high performance manager, change director of football, plus losing Craig, plus clashing with Teague. Nobody is doubting the poor results, but you might want to look at the bigger picture to understand why.
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 01:28 AM)PaulP link Wrote:You'd have to wonder how Hawthorn has started to leak so badly.I dont think Teague has anything to worry about, Clarkson will be a Coll next year.
At any rate, there's no way Teague could be coaching at his best right now. Swirling media speculation, injuries, the Review, Clarkson's sudden availability - his head must be a mess.
Re: Review - LP - 07-30-2021
Interesting to hear some of the inner argy bargy that is allegedly going on about Clarkson's performance in recent years, the washup is that they think the list is better than the ladder position, and that Clarkson has been a bit off his game in recent years.
I wonder if that is post Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), it is not an inconsequential consideration, I believe stress is claimed to be a big trigger for a potential reoccurrence. I've also heard that it is a bit like Ross River Fever or Dengue, you always eventually get a second dose.
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 07-30-2021
(07-30-2021, 02:00 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:$s ?He gets a $1-1.5M free courtesy of Haw, Coll will throw the kitchen sink at him.