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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 11-24-2021

(11-22-2021, 07:30 AM)capcom link Wrote:You are so wide of the mark, it's a joke.  You clearly know nothing about global alliances, interline, GDS reservations distribution and the massive interface between carriers across the world.

Without the QF designator, Qantas is effectively dead.  Joyce proposed vaccination passports VERY early in the piece when there were no intnl ops.  By international concurrence, they will become part of the airport structures for check in just as passports have done in the past.  IATA have now introduced rules which will quickly require  compliance.

But hey, I only did this for 42 years. what would I know? :Smile

Indeed! 

IATA did not and cannot "govern" the rules.  The Federal Government determines whether folk can enter the country and QANTAS determines the rules for its staff and passengers.  IATA's vaccine passport, as proposed by Joyce, is a tool its affiliates use.  The Federal Government will permit unvaccinated passengers to be carried under certain conditions, passenger caps, quarantine, etc.  QANTAS may agree or decline to carry such passengers.  Not all airlines and not all governments have the same requirements and Spain, Mexico, Croatia, Madeira, Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, India and the UAR do not require those entering their countries to be vaccinated.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-24-2021

(11-15-2021, 08:05 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Id rather have AZ next time around, but we are being given 0 option.
[member=105]Thryleon[/member]‍, looks like you are on the money.

Recent reports suggest in the latest wave older people who had AZ in the UK are faring much much better than their Pfizer or Moderna jabbed mainland European counterparts.

Science had already suggested that for some reason the Adenovirus vaccine produced a much stronger T-Cell response than the mRNA version, I gather the latest COVID wave across Europe proves it. I suppose one day science will work out why.

In the meantime, I think it's best to be cross vaccinated, as the latest studies suggest cross vaccination, or even the possibility of getting a mild Sars-CoV-2 infection while fully vaccinated, delivers a superior result to just having more of the same.

I suppose if we ignore those who get no benefit from the vaccines, and also ignore the unvaccinated, that is a pretty strong argument for opening up now, but it won't help the health system. Unfortunately, it's immoral to do so!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - northernblue - 11-24-2021

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1033137///?fbclid=IwAR3iX_i1EUFmrB9Y_O8EqQlJ0-nCIFpuCeuW8Psp4Cf8P1KYVy_ev14XJeo

Brian Cook is feeling positive…


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 11-24-2021

(11-24-2021, 05:31 AM)DJC link Wrote:Indeed! 

IATA did not and cannot "govern" the rules.  The Federal Government determines whether folk can enter the country and QANTAS determines the rules for its staff and passengers.  IATA's vaccine passport, as proposed by Joyce, is a tool its affiliates use.  The Federal Government will permit unvaccinated passengers to be carried under certain conditions, passenger caps, quarantine, etc.  QANTAS may agree or decline to carry such passengers.  Not all airlines and not all governments have the same requirements and Spain, Mexico, Croatia, Madeira, Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, India and the UAR do not require those entering their countries to be vaccinated.

A guy I work with is going to India next week and he needed to get a vaccine passport and he had to pay for his own covid test which ranges from $150-$400 depending on how quick he wants the result.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-26-2021

Oh boy ... WHO has declared the new Sth African variant as a Variant of Concern and named it Omicron.

It has made it's way quickly through the 1st 2 stages of classification: Variant under Monitoring (24/11/21), Variant of Interest (26/11/21) and now meets the criteria for a Variant of Concern:
Quote:Variants of Concern (VOC)
Working definition:
A SARS-CoV-2 variant that meets the definition of a VOI (see below) and, through a comparative assessment, has been demonstrated to be associated with one or more of the following changes at a degree of global public health significance:
  • Increase in transmissibility or detrimental change in COVID-19 epidemiology; OR
  • Increase in virulence or change in clinical disease presentation; OR
  • Decrease in effectiveness of public health and social measures or available diagnostics, vaccines, therapeutics.
 



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 11-26-2021

Exactly what I said yesterday ...


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 11-26-2021

Looking to get my booster soon. Gee how time flies.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 11-27-2021

Waste of time if that Omicron strain gets here


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 11-27-2021

(11-26-2021, 10:16 PM)Mav link Wrote:Oh boy ... WHO has declared the new Sth African variant as a Variant of Concern and named it Omicron.

It has made it's way quickly through the 1st 2 stages of classification: Variant under Monitoring (24/11/21), Variant of Interest (26/11/21) and now meets the criteria for a Variant of Concern:

By rights it should have been named Xi.

And was it not first found in Botswana from what I have read.

Not much to see in the new cases, new deaths data, but heck with double vaxxers showing a marked disdain for the 3rd shot booster, need some leverage to keep the sheeple under control....

Until Pfizermectin saves the day!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - northernblue - 11-27-2021

Not sure about it being a waste of time, but yeah they seem pretty concerned that it might be capable of evading our current vaxx