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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-19-2021

(11-18-2021, 11:59 PM)Mav date Wrote:Anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists say you can "reverse" vaccines with Borax, Salon.
We should invest in salt therapy centres and start a rumour it draws out the vaccine!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-19-2021

(11-18-2021, 06:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:I'm sure this video will be of interest to fans and non fans of Ivermectin....
I like him generally, but he has become a bit east/west since his own health scare, and especially when he buys into the political / corporate stuff. He spent a whole video recently countering with people who have critiqued some of his own work, something in the past he would have just ignored.

When you analyse it you can take this recent stuff either way, that he is claiming that if the new Pfizer works then Ivermectin should work, or that he is claiming we know Ivermectin doesn't work so the new Pfizer drug won't. He implies all this without actually stating it, is he being deliberately ambiguous?

At a deep level you can even find some ghastly mistakes in that recent video, that I have to wonder are they accidental or deliberate.

Maybe like we discussed in another thread on another issue, it's perhaps time for a good nap!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-19-2021

The interesting thing is that he isn't a Doctor. He has a Ph.D in nurse education, but I'm guessing most assume he's a doctor of medicine when they view his videos. He's apparently working as a nurse, and I'm guessing that they don't call him Dr Campbell when he's working.

That's not to say his stuff is to be discounted just because he isn't a medical doctor. After all, nurses have medical qualifications too and a nurse educator would need to be able to understand relevant recent research and make it easily digestible by a wide range of nurses. They would, of necessity, be more academically-oriented than nurses in general practice (and he has a number of post-grad qualifications). And he does do a good job of explaining matters to those of us who aren't health workers.

However, if the plaintiffs in NSW and Victorian challenges to the vaccine mandate sought to rely upon his expert evidence, he'd be blown out of the water by the respective States' experts.

And I was waiting for him to consider whether Ivermectin transcended the "good idea in theory" and became a viable prophylactic in practice. Maybe he did do this in other videos, but this is the main event. I wonder how we would explain the fact that decent studies have shown Ivermectin doesn't work any better than placebos and whether he'd agree that the only studies that suggest otherwise are tainted by poor methodology or outright fraud.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 11-19-2021

(11-19-2021, 12:46 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Over 12000 jobs for nurses in Aus vacant, the problem with those 20000 leaving is you need the breakdown of who they are and what they do ie if they are ICU and ER for example then you wont be getting the replacements from the Grad sector.
I keep hearing all this BS about getting Nurses from the UK to fill the gaps here in Aus, this is where people not involved in the health care sector have no idea as there are around 37000 vacancies in the UK for Nurses so its a worldwide problem.
Its no secret in the industry either that agencies send non specialist agency nurses to fill specialist Nursing positions just to get the business and its because they just dont have those extra qualified nurses on their books.

My ex-sister in law, as a senior nurse, used to make regular trips to India to recruit nurses for the mental health area.  She would sign up 100s on each trip.  If the pay and conditions are better, they will come - but it does leave the donor country short.

My daughter worked in the UK health system, where she was authorised to do far more than her qualifications permit in Australia.  If her experience is anything to go by, lots of UK nurses would jump at the chance to work in our system, flawed as it is.  Indeed, a couple of the nurses I spoke to when Mrs DJC was in ICU recently had come from the UK and Sri Lanka.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-19-2021

(11-19-2021, 01:52 AM)Mav date Wrote:I wonder how we would explain the fact that decent studies have shown Ivermectin doesn't work any better than placebos and whether he'd agree that the only studies that suggest otherwise are tainted by poor methodology or outright fraud.
I think the issue of what studies have shown is now vastly over-debated given what happened in Brazil and India, the studies just proved that even if the Ivermectin used in India and Brazil was dodgy, as the Ivermectin boosters claimed to counter the Brazil and India fails, it would make no difference because the real stuff is NFG anyway!

The fat lady has sung, Ivermectin is a COVID spud, but probably still useful for some related comorbidity!

The problem is Norbits won't differentiate between protease inhibitors, but a chunk of supersonic lead is a protease inhibitor, as is borax and the waters of the Dead Sea! Perhaps the best protease inhibitor is dying of COVID, that puts a dead stop to it!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-19-2021

I started watching another youtube video from the same guy but I couldn't believe what a tosser he is, so I stopped watching. I'll force myself to go back to it later maybe.

His aim was to debunk a BBC article and his first gambit was to mock the journalists.
Quote:On a completely separate matter, I've had a bit of a bad tummy lately, I must say. I'll tell you what I'm going to do, I'm going to a journalist to get it properly diagnosed. They'll know what's wrong with me. Can you imagine it: you're going for an operation and someone walks up to you wearing green scrubs and says' "I'm Mr Smith. I'm a journalist and I'm going to be doing your anaesthetic and this is Mrs Patel, she's the journalist and she'll be doing the operation." I don't think so! These people are journalists, and as far I can see they're just journalists; they're not science graduates, they're not doctors, and yet they seem to have this great wisdom they kindly bestow on the rest of us, so that's nice ... 

He then takes a swipe at the study that was the basis for the article as the lead author was a 'student' (although he begrudgingly acknowledged the other authors seem to be well qualified). Given that the study was about documenting the evident duplication of patient data and evident fraud in preprints and the refusal of the authors of other preprints to reveal their data, what the hell has that got to do with the price of fish in China. But he says that using the word fraud isn't nice, so there.

Reality check: what a self-own! If I turned up to have an operation and Nurse Johnnie was going to be my anaesthetist or surgeon, I'd be off like a shot. And the "student' was a doctoral candidate, and it's safe to conclude he'll match Nurse Johnnie's Ph.D very shortly. 

 


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-19-2021

(11-19-2021, 05:36 AM)Mav date Wrote:Reality check: what a self-own! If I turned up to have an operation and Nurse Johnnie was going to be my anaesthetist or surgeon, I'd be off like a shot. And the "student' was a doctoral candidate, and it's safe to conclude he'll match Nurse Johnnie's Ph.D very shortly.
Yes, no doubt he's fallen off the sensible wagon lately, not sure why, maybe that health issue was a tad bit more serious than Bali Belly!


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-19-2021

(11-19-2021, 05:36 AM)Mav link Wrote:I started watching another youtube video from the same guy but I couldn't believe what a tosser he is, so I stopped watching. I'll force myself to go back to it later maybe.

His aim was to debunk a BBC article and his first gambit was to mock the journalists.
He then takes a swipe at the study that was the basis for the article as the lead author was a 'student' (although he begrudgingly acknowledged the other authors seem to be well qualified). Given that the study was about documenting the evident duplication of patient data and evident fraud in preprints and the refusal of the authors of other preprints to reveal their data, what the hell has that got to do with the price of fish in China. But he says that using the word fraud isn't nice, so there.

Reality check: what a self-own! If I turned up to have an operation and Nurse Johnnie was going to be my anaesthetist or surgeon, I'd be off like a shot. And the "student' was a doctoral candidate, and it's safe to conclude he'll match Nurse Johnnie's Ph.D very shortly. 

 
Sorry to tell you but a nurse anaesthetist in many cases is responsible for administering anaesthesia before a surgical procedure. Its the next level up from ICU Nursing and usually another three years of hard yakka to qualify. Think there is a national exam to be passed also to get registration.
Not easy to get into and you usually get offered rather than apply via surgeon recommendations and working as a surgical nurse, Probably the best paid of the nursing jobs, lot of work in delivery of babies, smaller procedures etc, cosmo stuff etc...


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 11-19-2021

Sorry to tell you, Nurse Johnnie aint a nurse anaesthetist.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 11-19-2021

Austria announced a full lockdown and compulsory vaccination, not many holdouts left, winter is coming!

While hoping it won't happen, any local business not planning for more lockdown around March or April next year is just crazy, they need to become preppers because at some point in this the Fed's are going to stop the breast feeding!