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Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Mav - 03-07-2023
Revealed: 1,000 super-emitting methane leaks risk triggering climate tipping points, The Guardian.
Why are there so many super-emitting methane leaks when methane can apparently through catalysis be more profitable than having a goose laying golden eggs?
Thank heavens the blue hydrogen producers will be generating enough methane to address our global shortage of methane.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 03-07-2023
There is some irony in the photos they used for that article, a cow walking past a oil rig!
Human methane emissions versus natural methane emissions, that would be an interesting bit of research to wrap up.
Anybody notice the hydrogen garbage truck launched in Melbourne yesterday, they'll make there own green hydrogen from the solar power on the roof of the plant that builds the trucks using high performance solar powered catalysts.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Mav - 03-07-2023
I wonder if the fossil fuel industry will fund research into human and animal emissions of carbon dioxide versus emissions related to fossil fuels. No doubt the former are the real problem.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 03-07-2023
Redcycle, what a tragedy, proof bloody minded environmentalists can do as much harm as they do good.
Redcycle was a global technology leader, but it was handcuffed by a lack of political will, politicians too scared to oppose protestors. Which in the end prevented Redcycle from developing an end user market for it's product, relegated to collecting 300% more waste than they could recycle, and not having a revenue stream it went broke.
This technology has already moved off shore and will become a world leading part of the recycle, reuse, repurpose mantra, but not here, not in my backyard! It'll be foreign governments that get it right, and provide the infrastructure to advance the technologies that reduce waste, which apparently is not good enough for woke Australia.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Mav - 03-07-2023
Methane? Look over there - Redcycle!
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 03-07-2023
(03-07-2023, 05:27 AM)Mav date Wrote:I wonder if the fossil fuel industry will fund research into human and animal emissions of carbon dioxide versus emissions related to fossil fuels. No doubt the former are the real problem.Facts help in a debate.
Methane is 35x more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas.
Total methane emissions equate to 1/200th of Total CO2 emissions.
About 60% of Total Methane emissions come from human activities, the rest is nature.
The largest known methane reserves are natural, if they burp they will potentially cause global effects that dwarf anthropomorphic greenhouse gas emissions. Every earthquake, every volcanic eruption, every tsunami is a roll of the dice.
Methane longevity in the environment is about 1/18th of the longevity of CO2.
But let's not worry about the facts, let's just ban anything that is methane, regardless of whether it leads to a cleaner environment.
The big problem isn't really the emissions of methane, because globally it has a miniscule effect, the really big and stupid problem is the fact it is another resource that gets wasted, humanity at it's best.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Mav - 03-07-2023
The burping tends to happen during oil extraction, fracking and the like. But let’s not worry about the facts.
What I want to know is why the big emitters of methane don’t capture it and convert it through catalysis into commercially saleable products? Isn’t that a licence to print money?
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 03-07-2023
Sometimes I wonder if the anti-methane, anti-LPG or pro-electric cooking lobby have shares in the production of Induction Cooktops?
But will that new Induction Cooktop ever break even on the global carbon budget, with the elements and rare earths used in the power and electronics, or the specialist float glasses used for the hob?
Shhhh, lets not talk about the war, I want to sleep well!
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Mav - 03-07-2023
Methane? Look over there - Induction Cooktops!
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 03-07-2023
(03-07-2023, 05:40 AM)Mav date Wrote:What I want to know is why the big emitters of methane don’t capture it and convert it through catalysis into commercially saleable products? Isn’t that a licence to print money?If they could get a license, but the political will is not there, lobbyists are too powerful, the engineering and science doesn't really matter.
Recently, I noted councils around Australia have taken to banning Bluescope / BHP from using ethanol to power the steel and pickling mills. The BHP plan was that the factories would use the gas that is normally flared off to generate electricity that they needed for furnaces and operations. But that takes BHP/Bluescope off the grid as a user of renewable energy, a big earner for the energy sector, so the councils said no.
Yet the same councils issued new licenses for ethanol to be flared off, probably after it has been collected and compressed using SolarPV sourced energy! :
