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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - laj - 08-13-2024
(08-13-2024, 03:17 AM)LP link Wrote:What are you talking about, Cerra came to us already with a history of soft tissue injury, and played 40 games in his first two seasons?
This is his first real injury interrupted season at Carlton, it can happen to anybody!
Only as only prone as the person training you. Some might be more than others but most, if looked after, while eventually have prolonged playing continuity Very few are that injury prone that this still keeps happens year after year after year, 6 years now Thats more than injury prone spin.meaning soft tissue. Believe you me, I understand these things better than you ever will, it's my background.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Thryleon - 08-13-2024
(08-13-2024, 12:46 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:How would you suggest we manage the injuries better? We gave Cerra and Saad 6 weeks to get over their hammy's. Do we give them 10 weeks? At some point they become a liability . They have to be able to play, we're not a rehab centre.probably bringing them back into the seniors way too early which means they exert themselves when half done and then stuff it up.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-13-2024
(08-13-2024, 12:25 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:was thinking about this scenario and have arrived at a horrific result thought process wise.
Why wouldn't you play kids?
Draftee contracts usually have a match bonus payment condition attached.
So why aren't we playing kids? The cap is close to being overloaded.
We might be playing broken senior players because of out salary cap composition.
Salary caps are not that tight and don't work that way.
Any club worth their salt will aim for match payments for 23 players over 24 rounds (or whatever we actually play) and put that aside for every season. Whats left is what you play players from as in their base and above base payments.
You go a step further and allocate a certain part to any of the following you implement as a club (each club does it differently)
- Top (3, 5 or) 10 B+F finishers bonus
- Matches played threshold bonuses (kids get 10 - 15 - 20 bonuses IIRC, same for others potentially if you wish)
- individual KPI targets (eg # goals or goal assists etc)
- AFL award bonuses (AA, brownlow, coleman, 22U22 teams etc)
You set aside whatever 'bonuses' you want to pay. You add that to what you set aside with your match payments.
Then you pay players from whats left.
If you make finals, the AFL allows gives you the extra $'s required to pay players for their time.
If you win the GF there is an extra million to allocate IIRC as well.
In short, there is no financial incentive to NOT play the kids.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-13-2024
Put your money on the Eagles.
VFL side is playing this week.....
Harry McKay (quad)
- Scans have confirmed he sustained quad injury on Sunday
- Availability: 1-2 weeks
Jack Martin (hamstring)
- Scans have confirmed a minor hamstring strain
- Availability: 1-2 weeks
Adam Saad (hamstring)
- Scans have confirmed a minor hamstring strain
- Availability: 1-2 weeks
Charlie Curnow (ankle)
- Experienced a sprained ankle on Sunday
- Availability: 1-2 weeks
Lachie Fogarty (collarbone)
- Experienced a fractured collarbone on Sunday
- Will miss the remainder of the 2024 season
Jordan Boyd (adductor)
- Experienced a significant adductor injury during the game on Sunday
- Will miss at least the remainder of the home and away season
Caleb Marchbank (concussion)
- Availability: 1-2 weeks
Orazio Fantasia (calf)
- Availability: Test
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-13-2024
At least we have Fantasia! :
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Shakin77 - 08-13-2024
There goes the Forward line.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - townsendcalling - 08-13-2024
Newman Weitering Young
Cincotta McGovern Cowan
O Hollands Cripps Acres
E Hollands Kemp Kennedy
Owies Lemmy Motlop
Pitonett Walsh Lord
Hewett, Wilson, Carroll, Binns
Sub Williams
That's the best I can do!!! (With all the '1 - 2 weekers', we're going to have a bloody strong team come the first week of the finals!!!!
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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Lods - 08-13-2024
We'll win!
They'll have no idea how to handle the high expectations.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-13-2024
(08-13-2024, 07:29 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:There goes the Forward line.
We'll be left with (an injured) Kennedy to carry the flag.
Fantasia will take up some grass.
Hope Motlop eats his weeties this week. Could be asked to do a bit.
Put Young back.
Put Weitering forward.
Its the only way we'll have half a chance.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Gointocarlton - 08-13-2024
My side (not much choice) with all 6 of Curnow McKay Saad Boyd Fogarty Martin confirmed out