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Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 07:07 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Thats why you don't listen to the radio.
It was highlighted on tv exactly where it happened and how it happened and it had nothing to do with the ruck.
Kennedy's injury happened during a ruck contest with Koschitzke. Koschitzke "leant" on Kennedy as they were contesting a ball up and Kennedy's knee buckled. That's the risk you take when you put a midfielder into the ruck against a taller, heavier ruckman, even if he's a part timer.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:19 AM)DJC link Wrote:Kennedy's injury happened during a ruck contest with Koschitzke. Koschitzke "leant" on Kennedy as they were contesting a ball up and Kennedy's knee buckled. That's the risk you take when you put a midfielder into the ruck against a taller, heavier ruckman, even if he's a part timer.I suggest you watch it again, its available in the middle of this story.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1161352/brutal-carlton-blues-flex-their-muscles-dusty-martin-adds-to-richmond-tigers-injury-woes
Kennedy tripped over Taranto running past and his knee buckled before there was any contact in the ruck contest.
Something like that can happen to anyone at any part of the ground at any given time.
Its not because he's been played in the ruck.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:43 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I suggest you watch it again, its available in the middle of this story.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1161352/brutal-carlton-blues-flex-their-muscles-dusty-martin-adds-to-richmond-tigers-injury-woes
Kennedy tripped over Taranto running past and his knee buckled before there was any contact in the ruck contest.
Something like that can happen to anyone at any part of the ground at any given time.
Its not because he's been played in the ruck.
Have a look at the link I posted earlier. Taranto and Kennedy's feet clash and Kennedy's left foot takes his weight. Koschitzke then engages with Kennedy for the ruck contest and Kennedy's knee buckles inwards. If Koschitzke is out of the equation, Kennedy would be fine.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 08:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:Have a look at the link I posted earlier. Taranto and Kennedy's feet clash and Kennedy's left foot takes his weight. Koschitzke then engages with Kennedy for the ruck contest and Kennedy's knee buckles inwards. If Koschitzke is out of the equation, Kennedy would be fine.
I don't need to have a look at the link, i just linked it.
He is going down before there is any interference in the ruck contest.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 07-01-2024
What happened to Kennedy turns me grey when I think that we ruck Cripps and BigH, the risk is palpable! :o
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 10:02 AM)LP link Wrote:What happened to Kennedy turns me grey when I think that we ruck Cripps and BigH, the risk is palpable! :oYeah, keep them in the middle or as key forward.
There is never any side by side pushing and shoving there. Or bash and crash in marking contests.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 07-01-2024
I think the question of whether or not to ruck certain players needs to be considered separately from the Kennedy incident. Cripps and McKay seem to take their fair share of ruck contests, so the club seems okay with it. I'd be curious to know if other clubs assign occasional rucking duties to their stars.
As an aside, to my eyes Taranto's foot seems the likely culprit.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Gointocarlton - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 07:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Jordan Boyd offered a 1 match ban.utter garbage, Rich player ducked his head and forced the high contact. If he didnt duck his his head it would have been relatively a body on body contact. Roll out the KC.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 09:17 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I don't need to have a look at the link, i just linked it.
He is going down before there is any interference in the ruck contest.
No, you do need to look at it again because it’s obvious that the contact with Koschitzke causes Kennedy’s knee to flex laterally. Without the force applied by Koschitzke when Kennedy’s lower leg is pinned, Kennedy gets away with a slightly rolled ankle and stays on the ground.
Re: AFL Rd 16 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 07-01-2024
(07-01-2024, 10:58 AM)DJC link Wrote:No, you do need to look at it again because it’s obvious that the contact with Koschitzke causes Kennedy’s knee to flex laterally. Without the force applied by Koschitzke when Kennedy’s lower leg is pinned, Kennedy gets away with a slightly rolled ankle and stays on the ground.
So the ONLY reason Kennedy did his knee was because he was in a ruck contest??? Yeah nah.
If Taranto and him did the same thing and there was a brick wall there instead of Kosi, it would've been the brick walls fault too.
If what happened with Taranto didn't happen, then he doesn't do his knee. You know how i know this? Because he's done the same things 100's of times already in marking contests, rucking contests, midfield stoppage contests.
He was off balance because of the Taranto contact.
So far, that makes myself, Paul, the commentators agreeing with that side
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You....and maybe LP blaming it on the ruck contest.
Side by side, in a push and shove and that would ONLY happen in a ruck contest?
As an aside, you suggesting the ONLY reason he hurt his knee was because of the lateral flex caused by Kosi, i refer you to a story i've told many a time previous about a former QB Teddy Bridgewater, who hurt his knee to the point where he almost had to get his leg amputated while at training......and without any contact whatsoever. Doctors said it was akin to a car crash......yet no contact.
Sometimes $h!t just happens.
You can play the blame game, but that did not occur because he was used as a ruckman. That occured because he was playing a game of footy and was a complete accident.