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Re: The EV thread - northernblue - 01-31-2024
(01-31-2024, 12:57 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Aside from a prius are there any other ev's old enough to be sold second hand? I would have thought most ev owners would be "new" owners ergo very few would be for sale second hand and the ones that are would be "like new".
Either way I'd buy an ICE vehicle if you weren't sure. They'll be here for 20 more years at least IMHO.
Not an unreasonable comment, certainly better than “I don’t like Greta”
Re: The EV thread - DJC - 01-31-2024
(01-31-2024, 12:57 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Aside from a prius are there any other ev's old enough to be sold second hand? I would have thought most ev owners would be "new" owners ergo very few would be for sale second hand and the ones that are would be "like new".
Either way I'd buy an ICE vehicle if you weren't sure. They'll be here for 20 more years at least IMHO.
I think that your point about most EV owners not wanting to sell their new cars is right Thry. Leased vehicles might be different and fleet vehicles will be coming on to the used car market regularly.
Government fleet vehicles are replaced after three years or so. There will be thousands of ex-government HEVs in private ownership and many hundreds of ex-government EVs entering the used car market.
The sale of ex-government vehicles has always been part of the strategy to increase the number of EVs in private ownership.
Re: The EV thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-31-2024
https://thedriven.io/2024/01/08/does-australia-have-a-viable-second-hand-ev-market-yet/#:~:text=Looking%20a%20little%20deeper%2C%20196%2C000,of%20its%20second%2Dhand%20listings.
Re: The EV thread - LP - 02-01-2024
In the USA the used EV market is also trivial, they tend to be scrapping EVs for parts as a more profitable option over reselling.
I presume that process is largely driven by Tesla putting a huge premium on genuine spare parts.
Re: The EV thread - northernblue - 02-01-2024
(02-01-2024, 01:51 AM)LP link Wrote:In the USA the used EV market is also trivial, they tend to be scrapping EVs for parts as a more profitable option over reselling.
I presume that process is largely driven by Tesla putting a huge premium on genuine spare parts.
Who are you claiming is doing the scrapping ?
The US has been actively anti ev until Trump was kicked to the kerb, and by reports most of their ev (like Europe) are expensive and poor quality.
Really not sure why anyone would use ev and USA in the same sentence.
Re: The EV thread - LP - 02-01-2024
(02-01-2024, 02:33 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Who are you claiming is doing the scrapping ?The USA was still Tesla's biggest market in the most recent survey, but I believe it is predicted China will pass it this year.
The US has been actively anti ev until Trump was kicked to the kerb, and by reports most of their ev (like Europe) are expensive and poor quality.
Really not sure why anyone would use ev and USA in the same sentence.
In the USA there is a rapidly growing EV wrecking sector with most of it happening on the US West coast, I believe some of this is also being driven by the laws of various states like California.
Re: The EV thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-01-2024
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/#:~:text=On%20the%20outskirts%20of%20the,in%20partnership%20with%20Outrider%20Foundation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgRN5t8KRT8
Re: The EV thread - LP - 02-01-2024
You're being mischievous [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]
We all know that EVs are ultra-green, earning back their carbon credits many times over long before they are dumped as eWaste! :
I wonder what rating the EPA would give that site if the state government suddenly decided to dig a tunnel under it? :o
An OS business associate was showing me his new home last week, lovely engineered stone floors and benches. I mentioned that stuff was safe in his home but had been banned in Oz due to dust in workshops. He just laughed. You see his main gig is making SolarPV and he said he knows Australia is overloaded with warehouses full of old panels piling up on the promise of recycling. He said in his area the potential residues for old SolarPVs mean they are rated more toxic than the engineered stone!
I have to wonder what is really in a battery, I know what is supposed to be in them, but there is likely a huge difference between the theoretical and reality.
Re: The EV thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-03-2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFhER3r4J4
Re: The EV thread - kruddler - 02-03-2024
Just what we need, another option to muddy the waters.