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Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - Baggers - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 12:11 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GC have an 18% winning percentage away from home. Bookies had us as favourites even with our horrible form.
A bit of perspective along with the hysteria of winning needed imho.
We had way more possessions but only a few more inside 50s so we are still fecking around with the ball too much and both teams were down on contested and uncontested possession averages.
I want to see way more evidence that we are competitive vs decent teams before we award the likes of Boyd, Martin etc accolades like some want to do based on one game vs a team that away from home are one level up from West Coast...
Absolutely. A sobering perspective. Yes, we need to reproduce that performance against top notch opposition. But it was a step in the right direction. Hopefully it gives the boys some confidence... especially with boldness and tackle pressure... and kicking straight for goal!
I liked that after qtr time, we became the hunters...
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - PaulP - 06-19-2023
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/18/cornes-and-lyon-break-down-carltons-out-of-the-box-performance/
Not in any way a Cornes fan, but I do enjoy cherry picking the bits I like, and this is one of them :
“Then in the second quarter, they played as good a football as you've seen any team play this year.
We may as well savour the moment. It's hard to know how many more wins we'll have this year.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - RiverRat - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 12:44 AM)shawny link Wrote:TDK showed why he is wanted commodity on the open market. As a ruckman he still has a lot of growth yet to come but around the ground and especially forward he is a dangerous option and one opposition defenders need to keep their eye on when he floats forward.
Clumsy Pit on the other hand has one tool in his tool kit and once the bounce is over he is pretty much useless.
Thought Pitto was well beaten by Witts who was too strong against Pitto's main strength.
Impressed by TDK who used Witts' lack of mobility against him - especially at boundary throw-ins by detaching himself and then using his speed to get around his opponent to take prime position.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 06-19-2023
I think when discussing the job our blokes did on Witts, it's not just about stopping them, by continually harassing Witts and draining his strength he wasn't able to freely impose himself on Cripps, Cerra, Walsh and Kennedy, they had corridors of space to move in.
This is why the non-tap related stuff is so much more important than the hitouts.
When our Mids are free to go about their business without fear or hesitation, the taps become meaningless!
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 04:44 AM)LP link Wrote:I think when discussing the job our blokes did on Witts, it's not just about stopping them, by continually harassing Witts and draining his strength he wasn't able to freely impose himself of Cripps, Cerra, Walsh and Kennedy, they had corridors of space to move in.Spot on...keeping him out of the midfield hurly burly made it easier for our mids to have access to the ball and not have Witts shepherding and using his body to block opponents. He plays a bit like Nankervis who is no athlete but always has his big frame in packs being a nusiance to opposing onballers. I think it harder to do when GC play at home with the warmer conditions suiting them and teams are forced to rotate more players on and off the park and Witts being used to the heat doesnt tire as quickly.
This is why the non-tap related stuff is so much more important than the hitouts.
When our Mids are free to go about their business without fear or hesitation, the taps become meaningless!
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - pew2 - 06-19-2023
we won great BUT we still kick to contest going forward ,we have no forward craft i will not be convinced until we beat a good side at least martin and cunners survived.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 03:22 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Absolutely. A sobering perspective. Yes, we need to reproduce that performance against top notch opposition. But it was a step in the right direction. Hopefully it gives the boys some confidence... especially with boldness and tackle pressure... and kicking straight for goal!For me, I saw the players demeanor go from unsure, to confident to almost arrogant (ie owning the game) in 3 1/2 qtrs.
I liked that after qtr time, we became the hunters...
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - DJC - 06-19-2023
(06-18-2023, 07:53 AM)crashlander link Wrote:[4] Dow should get a go next week. His last quarter was pretty good: he had as many possessions as Martin had in 3 quarters. That said, Martin was so much more dangerous this week.
Almost every one of Martin's disposals ended up with a positive result for us, although there was more than a bit of luck attached to his shot at goal from just inside 50. Two of Paddy's disposals found a target; a handball to Cripps and a kick that Charlie took on the bounce. The rest were 40m kicks to contests and he wasn't really under pressure. Paddy has to make his possessions count.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 05:29 AM)pew2 link Wrote:we won great BUT we still kick to contest going forward ,we have no forward craft i will not be convinced until we beat a good side at least martin and cunners survived.Yeah I dont agree with all of that. I think the fwd craft has always been there but for the most part but the poor delivery has messed up the finishing off. When the delivery was fast and clean this week, we saw plenty of fwd craft with the bigs and smalls in sync. Martins gather off Charlie's hands and dish off to Harry for a goal was sublime (such is his talent). Agree lets hope Cunners and Martin can remain uninjured and make through every game to the years end. DC definitely added another dimension. Like me, you may have blinked and missed his run, gather and dish off on the half back line in the 3rd qtr, I couldn't believe my eyes and had to watch it again. The bloke oozes class and speed, exactly what we need. May the the footy gods bless him with some luck FFS.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Post Game Passion Carlton vs Gold Coast - DJC - 06-19-2023
(06-19-2023, 04:19 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Thought Pitto was well beaten by Witts who was too strong against Pitto's main strength.
Impressed by TDK who used Witts' lack of mobility against him - especially at boundary throw-ins by detaching himself and then using his speed to get around his opponent to take prime position.
Very true RR!
Witts was simply too strong for Pitto and Tom used his athleticism to advantage against Witts ... and our mids sharked many of Witts's hitouts.