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AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html) +--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html) +--- Thread: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide (/thread-6019.html) |
Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-13-2023 (04-13-2023, 10:06 PM)blueday link Wrote:Let's talk about injuries. Each and every year we play at a disadvantage, 10-15 blokes unavailable seems the norm. Decisions need to be made, a player who is a gun but isn't available is useless. Our fitness guru has seen no improvement in speed or injury rates. Fitness and injury management need a clean out. Players like Williams, Marchbank, Cunningham etc we need to play or move on. We can't be successful playing with a smaller list than the competition.We had very close to our best side on the park last night. Gov was an unfortunate late out, Doc prior to that was a blow. The rest on the injury list are not important to our fortunes. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Baggers - 04-13-2023 Nice. Still too nice. Where's the Voss hardness, ruthless determination & take no prisoners? (The Croweaters showed us how these things are done). For the 1st 4 weeks we played reasonable sides in reasonable form and struggled. As soon as we played a side, with finals like heat, in good form with everything to play for, we went to water. Sound familiar? Same old, same old. A brittle side, especially above the shoulders... more, nice. Selection table conservatism. Giving chances to blokes based on reputation or 'liked' around the club. Is Crippa nursing an injury? I almost hope so as that would explain a lot. His leadership, along with other leaders, was found wanting last night... when desperately needed. When your best mids are a veteran and a bloke who hasn't played for 6 months, you're in strife. Hewett and Kennedy are not in good form, Crippa hot and cold. We cannot bury sides, but we can be buried. We began last night uncommitted and seemed dreadfully ill-prepared, somewhat similar to how we meekly surrendered a big lead last week. No killer instinct, no ruthlessness, just conditional effort... more, nice. The only thing we succeeded in doing last night was embarrassing our brand, our club, our members and supporters. Many members and supporters would be feeling embarrassed today, even ashamed. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - cookie2 - 04-13-2023 A confidence crushing night for sure. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-13-2023 @ Lods Great summary mate. Just on Doc and Gov, they are very important as they read the incoming ball so well and they intercept more often than not. On a night like last night, they would have been worth there weight in gold. BUT (there is always a BUT), given our history with injury to key players, by now we should have had oodles of practice at having to have a "plan B and C in the event of...". Last night we seemed to have 23 blokes rattled. Weiters and Young did far to much man watching which had them one or two steps behind at every entry. Now I know the ball came in hot and clean all night but at some point, they had to adjust and say "stuff my man, I'm gonna read the incoming ball and back myself to go win it". Their defenders were doing that very thing, backing themselves and even taking pack marks when we bombed it in. FFS Young and Weiters have been doing it in every previous game. Whether Gov and Doc give them the confidence to do it I dont know but last night they went into their shells. Of course it was going to be a hard match and Adelaide set themselves for it, but so should have we and I expected nothing less than a close, tough, 4 quarter contest, not that hot mess we dished up. So yep I agree, dont read the papers, dont watch any footy shows because they will be scathing. The response will be very interesting. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-13-2023 (04-13-2023, 10:34 PM)Baggers link Wrote:The only thing we succeeded in doing last night was embarrassing our brand, our club, our members and supporters. Many members and supporters would be feeling embarrassed today, even ashamed.Bravo Signor Baggers, that's exactly how I feel and felt from literally the opening 5 minutes. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - crashlander - 04-14-2023 I couldn't even watch it. It was like a nightmare come true. Hopefully the club can actually learn something from our defeat, as we were beaten in the coach's box as well as on the field. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 04-14-2023 (04-14-2023, 12:20 AM)crashlander link Wrote:I couldn't even watch it. It was like a nightmare come true.Crash it was a dead set repeat of the last encounter so we may have learnt something from that one but we didnt do anything to stop it being repeated. The Adelaide coaches could be seen smiling and laughing in their box, I'm sure it was because they happy with their blokes but I am also sure they were laughing at us and how silly and second rate they made us look. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 04-14-2023 (04-13-2023, 10:11 PM)Lods link Wrote:The level of disappointment in a performance is often reflective of the expectations going into the game.Saw it coming and tipped Adelaide. Helped my tipping immensely. After following Carlton for 60 years you get an idea when they aren't going to turn up to play. No-one does "not turning up to play" better than Carlton, even in premiership years. We had 2 worse losses than last night in 1995. As long as they break last night down, go over what was wrong, then just focus on next week. It is the first loss. It'd not about the loss, it's about the rebound and what we learnt. We can get overworked up about one loss in a 23 game season. Stinkers will happen at near all sides. Geelong was 5-4 after 9 rounds last year. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - BluePhantom - 04-14-2023 I said it and predicted it that we needed to come with the right mindset. Great reading from all comments made, ALL valid. My worst gripe about last night watching at the game was how easily they moved the ball. Continually we manned space, set up zones and so it meant our players were in no mans land ALL the time. Hence continually chasing. I understand the idea but if it's not working early in the game CHANGE it. Why not go MAN on MAN for a period, make them earn their possessions not waltz coast to coast. The other thing I noticed was we had two players going for the man with the ball and he just passed it to a free player. Frustrating. Delivery to the forward line... is it the delivery or the forwards ability to lead? Umpiring?????????????? the amount of time Heartbreak Harry or Charles got illegally impeded was ^&%^&$$. Voss should be a Hardwick and say something about this. Re: AFL Rd 5 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide - cookie2 - 04-14-2023 Can't wait to see us next week- wonder if we'll have learned anything or been motivated to make any improvements?? |