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Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Mav - 04-17-2022
Four Points: Carlton’s ‘first-world problem’, The Age.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - BluePhantom - 04-17-2022
A win without out our Capt, take that any day.
Can we please, PLEASE when we kick the ball to Harry or Charlie we kick it in front of them NOT on top of their heads.
Both when they have a run onto a marking contest they are almost unbeatable but when they have to just stand and try to take a mark they are easy to defend.
Both are athletic and are troubling defenders.
When the ball is kicked to where they are standing all the holding and scragging by the defenders is not seen by the umps but when they are on the move to a contest the infringements are easily picked up.
A win is a win and at 4-1 playing badly is heaps better than playing you're absolute best and just scraping over the line.
Being starved of success for so long we want it to be pretty but great teams find ways to win ugly and we are learning to win ugly.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Sexybronco - 04-18-2022
(04-17-2022, 11:51 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:A win without out our Capt, take that any day.Summed it up nicely, while it would be great to believe we have become a powerhouse team overnight, reality is we are still a work in progress showing some impressive glimpses of what we’re capable of but still subject to lapses that were all to common in previous years. It will take time and they’re will be some bumps in the road but for the first time in ages we seem to be unified as a club and what we’re aiming for.
Can we please, PLEASE when we kick the ball to Harry or Charlie we kick it in front of them NOT on top of their heads.
Both when they have a run onto a marking contest they are almost unbeatable but when they have to just stand and try to take a mark they are easy to defend.
Both are athletic and are troubling defenders.
When the ball is kicked to where they are standing all the holding and scragging by the defenders is not seen by the umps but when they are on the move to a contest the infringements are easily picked up.
A win is a win and at 4-1 playing badly is heaps better than playing you're absolute best and just scraping over the line.
Being starved of success for so long we want it to be pretty but great teams find ways to win ugly and we are learning to win ugly.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Baggers - 04-18-2022
(04-17-2022, 11:10 PM)Mav link Wrote:Four Points: Carlton’s ‘first-world problem’, The Age.
Good article. Stating the bloomin' obvious, but doing it well and with important balance.
Yes, there is still a bit of the 'same old, same old' about our 'fades.' But our good is much better than our good of many previous years... which makes the fades all the more galling. A glaring contrast.
However, we're 5 games into a 23 game season (and hopefully more). And although some may think that the instituted changes from last year are small, they aint. Our blokes are learning a few very important differences... and culture, to previous years. And these differences involve a far greater work ethic/intensity and focus - something we've not done for years. Plus learning how to create and maintain a whole of side connect - the very foundations of cohesion.
Yes, we squander big leads, but we don't give up and this not giving up is new. These blokes want to win.
Strong change takes time. Turning a very different game plan into habit, takes time.
With the evenness of the competition the expectation of turning a seven goal lead into a twelve goal win, at this stage of our development is probably unrealistic.
Learning to handle being the hunted is new for us and will take time to learn how to expect/absorb and counter.
And as I've mentioned previously, we have an entirely new coaching group and no matter how brilliant our pre season/preparation was (and it was obviously first rate), you do your most important and effective learning in the heat of battle, and that's when the new coaches learn the most about our list.
Fortunately, our weaknesses are on full display now. And it'll take time to deal with and remove them. But I have genuine confidence in our coaching and playing group to address this effectively. We know we have the players to succeed, now they have to get used to knowing this.
Rarely does any side get to field, on any given week, its best 23. And our injury list is longer than most.
As has been said, it's better to be learning with Ws than Ls. We have plenty of Ls within games but are coming away with a W.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Baggers - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 12:26 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:Summed it up nicely, while it would be great to believe we have become a powerhouse team overnight, reality is we are still a work in progress showing some impressive glimpses of what we’re capable of but still subject to lapses that were all to common in previous years. It will take time and they’re will be some bumps in the road but for the first time in ages we seem to be unified as a club and what we’re aiming for.
Well said. Well summarised.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - crashlander - 04-18-2022
(04-17-2022, 01:18 PM)31Tommys_barber link Wrote:Would have said the same thing about Charlie Curnow at about this time last year! 5 goals today was handy100 % correct. But Charlie is a different type of player. I hope that Marchbank can come back, but I no longer expect it.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Mav - 04-18-2022
There have been teams that have coasted to 4-1 on the back of an ideal preseason with few injuries only to fade when injuries mount. That's not our situation. We had a substantial injury list leading into round 1 headed by our B&F from last year and every round has brought a new set of H&S protocol omissions or significant injuries (McGovern & Cripps). It's still possible we'll fade if we cop further injuries but it's amazing we've done as well as we have given the above.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - capcom - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:04 AM)crashlander link Wrote:100 % correct. But Charlie is a different type of player. I hope that Marchbank can come back, but I no longer expect it.
Been far too long out of the game. He should find another career.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:26 AM)capcom link Wrote:Been far too long out of the game. He should find another career.
I saw our Test Cricket Captain out of the side for 6 years with constant injuries. You just never know.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Slowhand - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:09 AM)Mav link Wrote:There have been teams that have coasted to 4-1 on the back of an ideal preseason with few injuries only to fade when injuries mount. That's not our situation. We had a substantial injury list leading into round 1 headed by our B&F from last year and every round has brought a new set of H&S protocol omissions or significant injuries (McGovern & Cripps). It's still possible we'll fade if we cop further injuries but it's amazing we've done as well as we have given the above.
Yep. We will be a lot better with the likes of Gov, Mack, Ed C, Phillp, Cunners and Honey back in the side, although I have my doubts over the durability of a couple.
Interesting to to best players in the reserves were all VFL listed bar from the Plow.
Still have big concerns over our fitness guru. We don't seem to be able to run games out.
Maybe I'm old school but I hear about training blocks and workloads. Your either fit or your not.
My 5 cents