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Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:01 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Teague will be sacked tomorrow, he's a nice guy but this a brutal business and this year was a complete fail.
We've sacked nice guys and we've sacked mean, hard bastards. It makes no difference at Carlton.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:01 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:Can someone remind me when the LOB bullet inside 50 was?
Left of screen but can't recall which quarter.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:05 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We've sacked nice guys and we've sacked mean, hard bastards. It makes no difference at Carlton.
Yep. Says more about us than it does about the sackees.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:08 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Left of screen but can't recall which quarter.
I think there was one in 4Q.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:04 AM)LP link Wrote:Can you explain why you have this perception, relative to what your expectations were?
My expectations were development. Are we better than this time last year? No.
We gave Eddie a nice farewell story and carried Murphy to 300 who seemed less than impressed with how it went down. Did it help Carlton? No.
SPS, Dow and O'Brien are supposed to be the future and we just completely wasted a year of development.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:10 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I think there was one in 4Q.
The kid should have played all year. We drafted him and he deserved a season to prove his worth. Especially as we were never really in contention.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:05 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We've sacked nice guys and we've sacked mean, hard bastards. It makes no difference at Carlton.
We should have let Malthouse clean up the club.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:We should have let Malthouse clean up the club.
We should have done a lot of things, but I no longer believe in the idea that a coach can be a change agent, either as a leader of change, or on their own. You plug a good coach into a good culture, and they contribute and improve that culture, which constitutes a type of change, but the sort of change people seem to expect from a coach is a saviour, rescuing a club, and turning bad culture to good. I simply no longer believe that is possible, and certainly not at Carlton. You just can't turn the tide when you have a hopeless Board and their associated hangers-on against you.
Every coach from Brittain to Teague has been treated badly. They can't rescue a club, despite what some supporters will believe.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 06:13 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:My expectations were development. Are we better than this time last year? No.I understand that, but who or what gave you that expectation, you can't have just got it from thin air?
We gave Eddie a nice farewell story and carried Murphy to 300 who seemed less than impressed with how it went down. Did it help Carlton? No.
SPS, Dow and O'Brien are supposed to be the future and we just completely wasted a year of development.
Certainly not form the club, Liddle publicly stated the exact opposite, didn't he say the time for development was over?
On the player names you mention, what about BigH, De Koning, Stocker, Owies, Fogarty, Honey and even Walsh has further progressed, do they not count?
Listing Dow is an interesting case, most in the media think he's made progress, not sure about fans or if fan opinions matter.
Is it all forward or nothing?
It reads like you are only looking at one side of the ledger.
Personally, I think a number of players have moved forward just in the last month or so, players we have not seen progress from for several years, why?
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 08-22-2021
Clarkson would have gone exactly the same as all the others. He chose well.