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Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - Gointocarlton - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 12:51 PM)capcom link Wrote:SPS simply does not care ... pityHasn't cared since the day he arrived.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - Baggers - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 01:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon our VFL mate is right and SPS has checked out and will want to head home, problem is his trade value wont be great given
his atrocious form. I thought Honey and Williamson would be the only ones you would pick to come back in, Kemp needs 3-5 more games to condition himself and get used to the speed of senior footy. Crocker wasnt bad given he was playing with a bunch of bananas and no hopers in the main and will still be a chance to be picked up next week by someone.
Spot on.
Fortunately WA clubs are fully aware of SPSs capabilities so, if traded, he will have some currency... not a huge amount considering the position he was taken at in the draft though. He really was given every opportunity, especially when moved to the midfield in the seniors... that was his opportunity to grasp, but he failed so now he has a few months in the Magoos unless something changes... big time.
Agree with Paul Sab. and his observations, especially that Kemp really did seem a step above the grade he was playing in. Like to see Honey given a go in the seniors... he did well given he had FA opportunities in a forward line that was starved.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - cookie2 - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 12:51 PM)capcom link Wrote:SPS simply does not care ... pity
Well he rarely if ever displays any passion or intensity in his play. Always looks to me like he’s cruising and always has. I don’t think we can reasonably expect him to change. A luxury we can’t afford IMO, maybe he’d go ok under less pressure in a much better side than us, who knows?
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - LP - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 10:41 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:Well he rarely if ever displays any passion or intensity in his play. Always looks to me like he’s cruising and always has. I don’t think we can reasonably expect him to change. A luxury we can’t afford IMO, maybe he’d go ok under less pressure in a much better side than us, who knows?This kids hardly missed a beat since arriving, and fans just expect more and more from him than I believe he's got to deliver.
He's a good footballer, he might never be a match winner, but why should we expect it?
I remember fans saying / complaining as much about The Hyphen's laconic character, then he stitched up Brereton on GF day and became a legend!
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - rocky - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 11:43 PM)LP link Wrote:I remember fans saying / complaining as much about The Hyphen's laconic character, then he stitched up Brereton on GF day and became a legend!With all due respect LP, Rhys had just a wee, wee bit more mongrel. Still, as you suggest, still not ready to write this bloke off yet but his form needs to improve and maybe a run in the 2's will get the penny to drop. Watch this space.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - LP - 05-25-2021
(05-24-2021, 11:51 PM)rocky date Wrote:With all due respect LP, Rhys had just a wee, wee bit more mongrel. Still, as you suggest, still not ready to write this bloke off yet but his form needs to improve and maybe a run in the 2's will get the penny to drop. Watch this space.Different era [member=202]rocky[/member] , but I do understand your frame of reference.
I can't work out with SPS if it's him or how he is used by the MC, fans should be a bit reticent to put all the blame on the player all the time.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - capcom - 05-25-2021
Rhys and Petrevski Seton comparisons? Entirely different players. One was silk, the other cheap hessian
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - LP - 05-25-2021
(05-25-2021, 12:35 AM)capcom date Wrote:Rhys and Petrevski Seton comparisons? Entirely different players. One was silk, the other cheap hessianEven so, many fans in the outer at PP use to go berserk because of the way The Hyphen use to appear like he was jogging at half pace everywhere! They judged the players intensity on appearances.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - Professer E - 05-25-2021
LP, I'm shaking my head mate. The spook was one of the finest natural footballers I've ever seen. He may have looked laconic at times (he made time slow down during play because he read the play brilliantly and was utterly unflustered under pressure), but the burning competitiveness and toughness - he is poles apart from SPS.
Re: VFL 2021 Rd 6: Carlton vs the Box Hill - LP - 05-25-2021
(05-25-2021, 01:35 AM)Professer E date Wrote:LP, I'm shaking my head mate. The spook was one of the finest natural footballers I've ever seen. He may have looked laconic at times (he made time slow down during play because he read the play brilliantly and was utterly unflustered under pressure), but the burning competitiveness and toughness - he is poles apart from SPS.I'm not comparing SPS to The Hyphen, that is not my point, I'm demonstrating how appearances can deceive.
A lot of fans reckon SPS doesn't care, that he has no intensity, I doubt that is true for any player who debuts than plays the bulk of 3 straight seasons without being dropped!
Fwiw, it's the very same way they misjudged Gibbs.
For some reason a lot of fans think if you are not jumping around like a vibrator in a jam jar you aren't trying or don't care, it's a bullcrap perspective!