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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - PaulP - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 01:03 AM)LP link Wrote:Not sure what is going on with Stocker, because I didn't see the VFL game a week before, but that 30 possessions must have been spectacular because he was horrendous on Saturday. Stage fright, it won't be any better next week!
What is worse, this kid can kick, and yet he looked timid and indecisive and couldn't hit a barn!
I think he needs more time in the 1's. VFL footy is at a lower level to senior footy. He played 5 games in 2019, 0 in 2020, and 1 this season. Plus taking time out for personal reasons.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 01:41 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I think he needs more time in the 1's. VFL footy is at a lower level to senior footy. He played 5 games in 2019, 0 in 2020, and 1 this season. Plus taking time out for personal reasons.Yep...First game back vs a very decent team and everyone under pressure didnt make for a easy transition back into senior footy.
Looked off the pace with the speed of the game, Essendon are very quick as are the Dogs so he has a couple of weeks of doing it tough and I wouldnt be playing him deep in defense where he may get a bit nervous.
He is still a kid learning and I know we want the odd messiah player or two to evolve but I dont think he is at that stage yet.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - PaulP - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 02:09 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Yep...First game back vs a very decent team and everyone under pressure didnt make for a easy transition back into senior footy.
Looked off the pace with the speed of the game, Essendon are very quick as are the Dogs so he has a couple of weeks of doing it tough and I wouldnt be playing him deep in defense where he may get a bit nervous.
He is still a kid learning and I know we want the odd messiah player or two to evolve but I dont think he is at that stage yet.
Yes, agree.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Gointocarlton - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 01:03 AM)LP link Wrote:Not sure what is going on with Stocker, because I didn't see the VFL game a week before, but that 30 possessions must have been spectacular because he was horrendous on Saturday. Stage fright, it won't be any better next week!Very harsh on a 6 gamer (none last year). Sprayed one badly through goals but couldn't hit the side of a barn?
What is worse, this kid can kick, and yet he looked timid and indecisive and couldn't hit a barn!
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Lods - 04-26-2021
The next three weeks are pretty important.
2-4 at the moment
History tells us you need to win at least 12 to play finals (unless one of the sides above you is a bit dodgy with their substances).
As it is we have to win around 10 out of the remaining 16....very, very difficult.
If that becomes 10 out of 13 that 's probably when we'll pull the plug and the older players will give way to the youth and experimentation (again :
)Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - LP - 04-26-2021
For me I think the sad thing is this.
If we played with the same intensity over the first few rounds that we've shown at times in the last two weeks against Port and Brisbane we'd probably be 3-3 or 4-2 instead of 2-4. We seem to react rather than act.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - LP - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 02:17 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Very harsh on a 6 gamer (none last year). Sprayed one badly through goals but couldn't hit the side of a barn?One, he missed 3 or 4 targets by tens of metres.
I'm not a Stocker basher, I know this kid can kick the eyes out, what the feck has gone wrong, what have our coaches done to him?
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Thryleon - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 03:20 AM)LP link Wrote:One, he missed 3 or 4 targets by tens of metres.
I'm not a Stocker basher, I know this kid can kick the eyes out, what the feck has gone wrong, what have our coaches done to him?
Probably nothing much. Kid just played senior footy for the first time in 2 years and we were under siege for periods.
Him and Cunningham need to get the dow, o brien, Setterfield treatment and give them a chance to find their feet at this level.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - kruddler - 04-26-2021
re stocker...
Just throwing it out there, but despite dominant form in the 2's and the AFL media (and a lot of supporters) calling for us to play the kids.....be careful what you wish for.
People calling for us to drop Murphy, Betts, Newnes, SPS etc......for who? For more Stocker type performances?
Now, don't get me wrong, i wanted Stocker in, i'd keep him in again this week, but there is a reason why those kids are in the 2's not the 1's.
So lets make sure everyone tempers their expectations.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - LP - 04-26-2021
(04-26-2021, 05:50 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Now, don't get me wrong, i wanted Stocker in, i'd keep him in again this week, but there is a reason why those kids are in the 2's not the 1's.I think many of us in the boat, we want the kids in when they deserve to be in.
So lets make sure everyone tempers their expectations.
BB gifted kids games, and where did that get us?
The big question is why are so many of our talented kids failing, player development?