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Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - Thryleon - 06-24-2020
FWIW
Work is telling us the tests are 70% accurate.
Connor has 2 tending positive, and 1 negative in the last 5 days.
At work in the hospital, given the nature of this beast, if you are suspected positive, you are positive until PROVEN negative and they test 4 times to ensure that negative is truly negative before discharge.
This has been handled poorly by the AFL. People suspected of having COVID are being stood down as a precaution to be safe, not to be a pain in the butt.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - DJC - 06-24-2020
Brett Sutton reckons McKenna did have COVID-19 but has recovered.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - flyboy77 - 06-24-2020
He certainly isn't going to raise the spectre of an often invalid test (the PCR test is crap) in the public arena!
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - flyboy77 - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 01:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:FWIW
Work is telling us the tests are 70% accurate.
Connor has 2 tending positive, and 1 negative in the last 5 days.
At work in the hospital, given the nature of this beast, if you are suspected positive, you are positive until PROVEN negative and they test 4 times to ensure that negative is truly negative before discharge.
This has been handled poorly by the AFL. People suspected of having COVID are being stood down as a precaution to be safe, not to be a pain in the butt.
Only 70%.
I was appalled when I thought the test was 90% accurate.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 02:17 AM)DJC link Wrote:Brett Sutton reckons McKenna did have COVID-19 but has recovered.
So he could have potentially infected others?, not sure how Dr Sutton gets to commentate on McKenna's health status when he isnt his personal GP.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - Gointocarlton - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 02:17 AM)DJC link Wrote:Brett Sutton reckons McKenna did have COVID-19 but has recovered.Yes he would say that.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - LP - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 03:38 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Only 70%.
I was appalled when I thought the test was 90% accurate.
All legitimate and credible tests in this sphere are deliberately designed to form false positives over false negatives, they weight the testing so that false negatives are eliminated as they can be deadly. In a weird way it's the very same premise as innocent until proven guilty.
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - kruddler - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 09:51 AM)LP link Wrote:All legitimate and credible tests are deliberately designed to form false positives ahead over false negatives. It's the same premise as innocent until proven guilty.
Correct.
Err on the side of caution.
You are much better off catching all the people who have it, if a few 'innocents' get caught up, so be it.
If however, we let through a few people who have it, the damage could be catastrophic!
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - LP - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 09:55 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Correct.Sorry got me before I finished a revision.
Err on the side of caution.
You are much better off catching all the people who have it, if a few 'innocents' get caught up, so be it.
If however, we let through a few people who have it, the damage could be catastrophic!
Re: Cheats FC Player Allegedly Tests Positve to Covid 19 - flyboy77 - 06-24-2020
(06-24-2020, 09:51 AM)LP link Wrote:All legitimate and credible tests in this sphere are deliberately designed to form false positives over false negatives, they weight the testing so that false negatives are eliminated as they can be deadly. In a weird way it's the very same premise as innocent until proven guilty.
And yet the inventory of the PCR 'test' himself (Kary Mulllis, an out and out genius, died last August RIP) questions its efficacy given it was never designed for such a purpose.
"In the US, we have all but abandoned classical diagnostic medicine in favor of biotech, or lab result medicine. This has been going on for a long time and is a dangerous turning. The “Corona test” is named with characteristic tech-tedium: “CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel.” That means it is a needle in a DNA haystack test. A PCR test.
It finds fragments, nucleic acids. From an email from Kary Mullis, to the widow of boxer Tommy Morrison, whose career and life were destroyed by an “HIV test,” and who litigated ferociously for years, against test manufacturers, Dr. Mullis wrote, on May 7, 2013:
“PCR detects a very small segment of the nucleic acid which is part of a virus itself. The specific fragment detected is determined by the somewhat arbitrary choice of DNA primers used which become the ends of the amplified fragment. “
If things were done right, “infection” would be a far cry from a positive PCR test.
“You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it,” Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer, and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics told me. “You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PRC test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms.”
I asked Dr. Rasnick what advice he has for people who want to be tested for COVID-19.
“Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me,” he replies. “No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable.”
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/