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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - cookie2 - 08-25-2019
Our major problem in that game imo was that, although we did very well in terms of the number of times we got the ball into F50, we just could not keep it there or capitalise in terms of goals. The Cats were far more effective/efficient in terms of F50 entries. Our midfield did not appear to be the cause of our demise imo.
Nevertheless, we were carrying three passengers (at least) in terms of O'Brien, Fisher and Dow. Hopefully the penny drops for them in 2020 and we start seeing some better performances and involvement in the game.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - laj - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 03:23 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Our major problem in that game imo was that, although we did very well in terms of the number of times we got the ball into F50, we just could not keep it there or capitalise in terms of goals. The Cats were far more effective/efficient in terms of F50 entries. Our midfield did not appear to be the cause of our demise imo.
Nevertheless, we were carrying three passengers (at least) in terms of O'Brien, Fisher and Dow. Hopefully the penny drops for them in 2020 and we start seeing some better performances and involvement in the game.
Light kids, another pre-season will help. The trade period is hopefully the last of the rebuild where we get to add a few big bodies so light kids don't have to do a big bulk of midfield grunts.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - laj - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 02:16 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:That plus the way that Kreuzer doesn't jump in the centre circle ruck contests. From the very first contest, the opposition ruckmen jumped over MK and cleared the ball for easy centre clearances.
Kreuzer, if he has a tough day they say he isn't so good and pick every fault, when he comes back from injury and plays well, it's "we are so much a different side with Kreuzer".
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - crashlander - 08-25-2019
Matthew Kreuzer is the best ruckman we've got, by some margin.
However, he isn't going to be the ruckman who wins us a flag next. His injuries mean that he doesn't have the spring. Nor does he have the height to combat a 211 cm ruckman. Nor does he have the strength to combat some of the shorter, stronger guys who don't jump.
I still love the guy, the way he gives 100% every time he goes out. But he is so rarely 100% in his own body ...
I have harped on it a lot, but we need a dominant ruckman. We don't have one.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - Lods - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 06:31 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Matthew Kreuzer is the best ruckman we've got, by some margin.
However, he isn't going to be the ruckman who wins us a flag next. His injuries mean that he doesn't have the spring. Nor does he have the height to combat a 211 cm ruckman. Nor does he have the strength to combat some of the shorter, stronger guys who don't jump.
I still love the guy, the way he gives 100% every time he goes out. But he is so rarely 100% in his own body ...
I have harped on it a lot, but we need a dominant ruckman. We don't have one.
Where does Kreuzer play if he isn't our number one ruckman.
I don't think he does.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - laj - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 06:31 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Matthew Kreuzer is the best ruckman we've got, by some margin.
However, he isn't going to be the ruckman who wins us a flag next. His injuries mean that he doesn't have the spring. Nor does he have the height to combat a 211 cm ruckman. Nor does he have the strength to combat some of the shorter, stronger guys who don't jump.
I still love the guy, the way he gives 100% every time he goes out. But he is so rarely 100% in his own body ...
I have harped on it a lot, but we need a dominant ruckman. We don't have one.
Many a flag won without dominant ruckmen.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - Baggers - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 02:16 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:That plus the way that Kreuzer doesn't jump in the centre circle ruck contests. From the very first contest, the opposition ruckmen jumped over MK and cleared the ball for easy centre clearances.
...and didn't that set the tone for the day!
Can't help but wonder if we took a number of injured blokes into the game, including Kreuzer with his decaying feet and knees. But then maybe I'm simply hoping that 4 broken legs, 3 ACLs, 2 concussions, 3 blokes with leprosy and 6 blokes accidentally slipped 20mg ea of Valium before the game explains our performance.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - cookie2 - 08-25-2019
Kreuzer was NOT the reason we lost that game so badly. Sorry!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - LP - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 07:04 AM)laj link Wrote:Many a flag won without dominant ruckmen.
Names and dates?
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 23: Carlton vs Geelong - DJC - 08-25-2019
(08-25-2019, 03:47 AM)laj link Wrote:Kreuzer, if he has a tough day they say he isn't so good and pick every fault, when he comes back from injury and plays well, it's "we are so much a different side with Kreuzer".
Very true. Apart from Stanley hitting the scoreboard, I would call it a tie. Casboult having a shocker didn’t help Kreuzer’s cause.
And you don’t leave Dangermouse unattended on the goal side at centre bounces >
