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Re: GM to dump Holden - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-09-2019
(06-09-2019, 08:19 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Thanks for that EB. I really need to brush up on this sort of knowledge. We've driven Mazdas for decades, and we simply buy those now by default.
Paul, good choice ...Mazda's are good well designed vehicles and the after sales service backup is ok too....
Re: GM to dump Holden - PaulP - 06-09-2019
(06-09-2019, 08:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Paul, good choice ...Mazda's are good well designed vehicles and the after sales service backup is ok too....
Thanks EB.
Re: GM to dump Holden - capcom - 06-09-2019
I'll stick with Subaru outbacks ... very good in all aspects. Jeeps are just bad news
Re: GM to dump Holden - DJC - 06-09-2019
As an ex-Wrangler owner, I have to say that I can’t fault the protection they provide to the occupants. Not that I needed it myself but several of my Jeep buddies were involved in serious accidents and the integrated roll cage enabled them to walk away. Indeed, most Wranglers that have rolled can be made roadworthy and have the rollover record deleted from the onboard computer. In fact, a young friend roiled one on a steep track last month and was able to get it back on its feet, drive home, replace some panels and get a roadworthy for it within a week.
If you want a capable 4WD with a live front axle and ladder chassis, you’re going to run foul of ANCAP ratings. My 79 Series Landcruiser doesn’t have an ANCAP rating because Toyota couldn’t be bothered (the 2016 single cab model has a 5 star rating).
If I was in the market for a genuine outback touring, boghole ploughing, rockcrawling 4WD, I wouldn’t be too concerned about ANCAP ratings. However, I would be concerned about reliability and build quality and that’s where I believe that Jeep lets its buyers down.
Re: GM to dump Holden - dodge - 06-09-2019
(06-09-2019, 08:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Good news for Nissan/Mitsubishi buyers too, as if it wasnt bad enough that Renault have allied themselves with them and screwed with their engineering it appears Renault want to take over Fiat Chrysler too.....I'd be avoiding all those brands...
Issues with Renault - genuinely curious to know them? I understood that the chassis and engines are Nissan incl the CVT, electronics are Samsung, design French. Nissan hasn't changed not sure about Mitsubishi. I do have a history of owning Renaults still going with the 2002 Clio. Much more fun driving that than some other small cars. More recently, newer Megane and Koleos made in the new alliance days are solid, comfortable rides - never had an issue with them.
Re: GM to dump Holden - Professer E - 06-09-2019
An old joke in 4WD circles... It's a Jeep limited.... Very limited.
Re: GM to dump Holden - LP - 06-10-2019
(06-09-2019, 10:29 PM)Professer E link Wrote:An old joke in 4WD circles... It's a Jeep limited.... Very limited.
The vast majority of people I know who have purchase one to tow stuff regret it, after their first downhill fright they nearly all end up in Landcruiser, Patrol or Pajero, some end up in Land or Range Rover but that's been for suburban towing of Sweeties Pony Float!
Know a couple of people that have just purchased RAM or F-Series for when they need a bigger boat, and one Hummer owner! No real feedback yet!
Re: GM to dump Holden - Professer E - 06-10-2019
The V8 turbo diesel cruisers we use for work are phenomenal. Pulled an 1800 litre water trailer the other day through sand, hardly knew it was there. But I'd hate the fuel bills.
Re: GM to dump Holden - LP - 06-10-2019
(06-10-2019, 12:51 AM)Professer E link Wrote:The V8 turbo diesel cruisers we use for work are phenomenal. Pulled an 1800 litre water trailer the other day through sand, hardly knew it was there. But I'd hate the fuel bills.
Yeah, in the end I gave up on various twin cabs and crew cabs and we bought a turbo diesel landcruiser for the girl to tow her trotters around, she says she doesn't even notice when two of them are on the back, and they weight about 600kg a piece plus a 1800kg float! Happy wife happy life!
The mates tell me the fuel bills are the interesting thing for the Ram, F-Series and Hummer. Because the bills don't change that much under load, they've sh1t economy unloaded or fully loaded! ;D But all three have those smart engine management systems, they basically turn off cylinders when you are towing on freeways or holding speed on straight level roads, so they are not as bad as you think for a vehicle rated at +4500kg towing! Pays to have a soft foot!
Re: GM to dump Holden - DJC - 06-10-2019
(06-10-2019, 12:51 AM)Professer E link Wrote:The V8 turbo diesel cruisers we use for work are phenomenal. Pulled an 1800 litre water trailer the other day through sand, hardly knew it was there. But I'd hate the fuel bills.
I’ve got a 79 Series. When we did the Madigan Line last year, my fuel consumption was 14l/100km. The three 200 Series on the trip all got around 28l/100km. The next best performer was the Grand Cherokee with 17l/100km. All diesels of course.
It seems that the twin turbos on the 200 Series mean that they are working hard most of the time. The 79 Series has a single turbo and only works hard when it has to ... a bit like a former Blue running around in the SANFL
