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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - crashlander - 07-04-2018
(07-03-2018, 11:45 PM)DJC link Wrote:Not entirely true LP, but he certainly could work harder when the opposition has the ball. I think that’s something he has to work on the VFLIndeed. As LP noted, McKay does average 2.3 tackles per game, something that Levi hasn't done since Ratten left. But he has the capability to do much more. He has the agility and pace to make life difficult for tall defenders trying to run away. Hopefully, in time, we will see that.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - flyboy77 - 07-04-2018
Should be playing seniors, no question.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 02:07 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Indeed. As LP noted, McKay does average 2.3 tackles per game, something that Levi hasn't done since Ratten left. But he has the capability to do much more. He has the agility and pace to make life difficult for tall defenders trying to run away. Hopefully, in time, we will see that.
That was me..haha.
He does have the ability to do more but I think that has much to do with confidence. If he can nail a breakout game somewhere that might just change things. He dropped a bit in his last couple of games, which can skew people's thinking as he was doing better before then, but he does continue to hit the scoreboard. He's more aggressive when he plays VFL and tends to hit packs pretty hard at times there. Just needs to carry that part over to the AFL.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-04-2018
Tackles are not a very useful stat when a player lets their opponent run off them, or when they offer a single effort.
McKay has a cheap goal mentality, fans pump up his two goals a game but they are not like Jack Riewoldt or Josh Kennedy getting two goals a game. McKay's are cheapies, you do not see him doing 3 or 4 consecutive repeat leads across the top of the square like Riewoldt or Kennedy, but McKay has that level of mobility in him and he could have far more impact by working hard to bring team-mates into the game instead of feasting off them! The work rate from Riewoldt and Kennedy creates a structure that small forwards and mids can operate within, that is what will deliver some positive game results for Carlton!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - jeza - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 02:16 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Should be playing seniors, no question.
Totally agree. Not sure what rotting in the 2s does for anyone. Especially when they're getting pumped most weeks - the past 2 weeks aside.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - jeza - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 02:59 AM)LP link Wrote:Tackles are not a very useful stat when a player lets their opponent run off them, or when they offer a single effort.
McKay has a cheap goal mentality, fans pump up his two goals a game but they are not like Jack Riewoldt or Josh Kennedy getting two goals a game. McKay's are cheapies, you do not see him doing 3 or 4 consecutive repeat leads across the top of the square like Riewoldt or Kennedy, but McKay has that level of mobility in him and he could have far more impact by working hard to bring team-mates into the game instead of feasting off them! The work rate from Riewoldt and Kennedy creates a structure that small forwards and mids can operate within, that is what will deliver some positive game results for Carlton!
When you're team is averaging 8ish goals a game and you're averaging 2 goals a game I think you've got a right to wonder why you're not playing. I think it's a joke. He definitely needs to find more of the ball.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - DJC - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 02:16 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Should be playing seniors, no question.
In fact, there is a huge question!
Harry has great potential but it's doubtful that he will achieve that potential if he is not challenged to deliver in all aspects of his game. Yes, he has kicked a few goals at AFL level but his overall contribution has been poor. A bloke with his size, athleticism and ability should be dominating in the VFL, regardless of how well or poorly the team is travelling. He managed to get in the best players last week, and that's a good sign, but he really needs to start taking games by the scruff of the neck. If he can do that, he will be ready to take the next step.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - jeza - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 12:52 PM)DJC link Wrote:In fact, there is a huge question!
Harry has great potential but it's doubtful that he will achieve that potential if he is not challenged to deliver in all aspects of his game. Yes, he has kicked a few goals at AFL level but his overall contribution has been poor. A bloke with his size, athleticism and ability should be dominating in the VFL, regardless of how well or poorly the team is travelling. He managed to get in the best players last week, and that's a good sign, but he really needs to start taking games by the scruff of the neck. If he can do that, he will be ready to take the next step.
Again: Young forward playing in a VFL team which sometimes can't get the ball over half way. It's a waste of time when he's shown more than a bit of promise at AFL level - again - in a team which is not exactly flooded with forward half supply.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-04-2018
(07-04-2018, 12:45 PM)jeza link Wrote:When you're team is averaging 8ish goals a game and you're averaging 2 goals a game I think you've got a right to wonder why you're not playing. I think it's a joke. He definitely needs to find more of the ball.
Riewoldt or Kennedy create another goal or 2 for every goal they kick because of their work-rate, our low scoring is partly a function of the poor running patterns, lack of repeat efforts and lack of defensive pressure from our forwards.
Until we see some positive sacrifices from our KPFs, sacrificial running, creating space, meaningful repeat efforts, shepherds, blocks and consistent defensive pressure, we will languish on the bottom of the ladder. When the big blokes aren't working hard enough, the little blokes are too easily picked off by the defence!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - Professer E - 07-04-2018
A traffic cone applies more defensive pressure than Levi.