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Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 05-06-2018
Our "shrinking defence" will be made up of lightweights, you'll deliver the perfect conditions to run blokes like Stringer, Ambrose, Tipunwuti and Daniher into good form!
O'Shea looks a million dollars at VFL, but at AFL level he is bruise free despite being +190cm.
There was a reason Rowe was getting shitty last night, and it wasn't the opposition or our talls!
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 01:29 AM)LP link Wrote:Our "shrinking defence" will be made up of lightweights, you'll deliver the perfect conditions to run blokes like Stringer, Ambrose, Tipunwuti and Daniher into good form!
O'Shea looks a million dollars at VFL, but at AFL level he is bruise free despite being +190cm.
There was a reason Rowe was getting crapty last night, and it wasn't the opposition or our talls!
Not so much bruise free from OShea, its his kicking...its terrible, cant hit targets and his decision making on who to kick to is woeful.....
Plowman is a better kick but if I was going to look at bruise free players he would be on my list......add Mullett and Weitering and its slim pickings for genuine hard attack on the footy.
ACOS needs to be back in that team to show the way in that area...
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LoveNavy - 05-06-2018
(05-05-2018, 10:26 PM)Lods link Wrote:Half an Adelaide side beat half a Carlton side at home
Their depth covered their injuries better than ours.
They're challenging, we're building
They controlled most of the game, but we held our own at times and even had periods where we were on top.
50+ points was about the expected margin
On to next week.
My exact sentiments
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - IvanAwfulbigone - 05-06-2018
You know, a stat attributed to Simpson is a little like a mule with a spinning wheel. No one knows how he got it, and danged if he knows how to use it.
Time to stick him in the NBs for the rest of the year and make him captain, although that would be a bit of an affront to Tom Wilson who seems a decent fellow and gives his all.
SPS continues to take his eye off the ball at the crucial moment. That's a terrible habit that needs to be eradicated pronto.
I wonder if word went out to Liam Jones in the last that he needs to stop spoiling and go for the mark? If so, he was much better for the advice.
Also, memo to skills coach - please teach the players to position their bodies sideways, or stick their bum out, or lift their knee/leg in the style of Toby Greene whenever there is a whiff that someone is approaching for an intercept (Betts). Pretty basic stuff ... from my armchair anyway.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 04:08 AM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Also, memo to skills coach - please teach the players to position their bodies sideways, or stick their bum out, or lift their knee/leg in the style of Toby Greene whenever there is a whiff that someone is approaching for an intercept (Betts). Pretty basic stuff ... from my armchair anyway.
Actually, I'd just accept blokes approaching the ball and taking it at the highest point instead of standing flat footed waiting for the footy to come to them!
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - jeza - 05-06-2018
We are inexperienced across the team but jeez our experienced guys don't help much sometimes. Was it Rowe that chipped pass that Betts picked off? Simmo butchered a few pretty simple ones. His shot at goal when he should have passed was poor. O'Shea is too old to be butchering it all over the place.
Add to that the young guys throwing in their occasional stuff ups... not going to win many games like that.
Several of those guys wouldn't be getting a game if not for the lengthy injury list obviously but Simmo isn't one of those. We really rely on him still and his good outweighs the bad by a long long way.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 04:54 AM)jeza link Wrote:We are inexperienced across the team but jeez our experienced guys don't help much sometimes. Was it Rowe that chipped pass that Betts picked off?
Rowe was involved in two, one as the kicker and one as the receiver, but the problem isn't the kick, the problem is standing flat footed to receive!
When the commentators bang on about bad delivery inside F50 from a long kick you need to ignore them.
You have to ask why the 200cm forwards are looking for cheap out the back goals when they are left one out with a defender inside F50!
If McKay or Casboult take front spot leading at the ball, who the feck is going to jump over them if they hit the ball at the highest point?
It's no use McKay or Casboult waving their arms about screaming "I'm back here!", when they have had 5 seconds to work out where the ball was going!
Same goes for those Betts intercepts, both times the defender had seconds to move towards the ball. FFS, Betts covered about 10 to 15m in the same period of time to effect the spoil!
There was one where Simmo stood their with his arms cupped astounded that the ball didn't fall in them, FFS! :
As much as I love Simmo, he's too old to change his ways, he has a lot of bad habits!
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - flyboy77 - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 04:11 AM)LP link Wrote:Actually, I'd just accept blokes approaching the ball and taking it at the highest point instead of standing flat footed waiting for the footy to come to them!
this...
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - Vivian - 05-06-2018
Foot skills in defence are often the difference and we are struggling this year. Williamson will be important when he returns as can clear with a good kick. Noticed Marchbank kicking out last week but it was mostly Simpson again last night so we were again exposed down back.
It doesn't take much to throw everyone off and then each disposal is rushed and turnovers result.
With casboult out it is a chance to see us with 2 rucks, 2 key forwards, assuming curnow is good to return. Dow got a little more involved and with 14 tackles, end curnow did some heavy work. Well done to Thomas who was probably our best.
Re: 2018 Rd 7: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Adelaide - kruddler - 05-06-2018
(05-06-2018, 01:00 AM)LP link Wrote:That's a rubbish statement.
Yesterday I watched NBs at Frankston. Two players Weitering and JGM wanted the last defender role. It was basically a battle between them in the first half who could set themselves up in that role. But in reality, when JGM got his opportunity he was no good at getting to the contests, he was nearly always late, failed to read the play or was beaten. Weitering in the same role was basically dominant, as you would want a player of that calibre to be!
Nobody would make a claim JGM is slower than Weitering, or slower than any of the above. Worrying about speed is way way too simplistic, it's not just about speed, it's about decision making, reading the play and being committed.
You mentioned speed. I was talking about speed, acceleration, agility as well as quickness in terms of decision making and disposing of the ball.
I know weitering is smart. I know he will dominate at VFL level. Thats part of the reason i wanted him out of the side earlier. He lacked confidence. That combined with some very iffy matchups basically broke him.
So now he's got his mojo back, he's half a chance to get back to the level we need him.
BUT, there is a big difference between VFL and AFL.
Players are bigger, stronger, faster and smarter in the AFL.
On the lead, Weitering suffers.
High ball in the air, he, generally, dominates......although he needs to work on his wrestling.
Loose ball on the ground, Weitering is not ideal.
Peeling off, and helping teammates or getting into space to provide an option, he is good.
Being one to take the game on from the backline with quick, precise ball movement, he is lacking.
We often talk about a 'chain of possessions' or going 'coast to coast'. Well a chain is only as strong as its weakest link....and when trying to move the ball quickly out of defense, Weitering suffers from a touch of the 'T-Birds' in that area. He almost always looks sideways and backwards and lets the opposition regroup. We struggle to move the ball out of defense when he is part of the chain. Nothing that can't be worked on, but when we struggle to move the ball out of defense at the best of times, we don't need to give ourselves a handicap as well.