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Re: The Quick Fix - cookie2 - 04-18-2018
I think it would be a good move to get a couple of seasoned hard at it and skillful mids in but not at the expense of losing our good draft picks or better players. FA would seem to be the best way to go and this would not compromise the rebuild. We have however generally failed in the past to attract the right players.
Re: The Quick Fix - blue4life - 04-18-2018
We need to forget about trading Casboult, he's not worth anything.
Re: The Quick Fix - LP - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 02:57 AM)blue4life link Wrote:We need to forget about trading Casboult, he's not worth anything.
Controversial B4L!
Re: The Quick Fix - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 01:33 AM)DesEnglish link Wrote:I think it's time to bring some better AFL class (not rejects) in via FA.
Someone like Guthrie, maybe Gaff or Dalhaus. Just another couple of guys that can manage AFL football and take some pressure off the kids. SPS, Dow etc would be better off being mids 5,6,7 etc than 3 or 4.
I'd also look for a Hodge/Lewis type as an on field coach.
I'm all for the rebuild but if we're not careful it could go very wrong
Agree...to be fair SOS did try with Saad, Smith and Rockliff but those players wont come to bottom clubs and it also gets down to money and we dont seem to offer the real big dollars that other clubs do.
Re: The Quick Fix - blue4life - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 03:01 AM)LP link Wrote:Controversial B4L!
Not really, his agent's been hawking him around for the past two or three years and there hasn't been any interest and he's not going to get any younger or better.
Jones isn't worth anything either, maybe a pick 50 or so but that's as good as nothing given our draft history.
The only trades we can make are young players who we've had a look at and don't think that they'll measure up, it's probably blasphemy to suggest it but McKay might get us a decent pick or a player.
Either that or hang onto him until he's truly worthless like we did with Watson and a few others.
If we want success we've got to start making some hard decisions.
Re: The Quick Fix - LP - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 04:07 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Either that or hang onto him until he's truly worthless like we did with Watson and a few others.
I think it's too early to make that call.
I'd cut Casboult and put his wage towards leveraging an older KPF type away from a team to become our KPF cornerstone and forward zone leader. Not unlike what the Dawks did with Lake in defense!
It does not necessarily need to be someone out of contract, it just needs to be someone half decent with 2 or 3 years left in them and wants out of a club about to rebuild.
As stupid as this sounds, someone like Jarryd Roughead!
The problem we have at the moment though is that a lot of teams have forward lines with relatively young KPFs.
Maybe Tom Lynch(GC) will be the trigger that sees some experienced KPF types, the few that are left, on the move.
Re: The Quick Fix - blue4life - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 04:36 AM)LP link Wrote:I think it's too early to make that call.
It won't be at the end of this season, he'll have been at the club for three years by then so if we hang onto him and he doesn't measure up in 2019 his value will be approaching zero.
Better to play him and see what he's made of.
Re: The Quick Fix - Thryleon - 04-18-2018
(04-18-2018, 04:49 AM)blue4life link Wrote:It won't be at the end of this season, he'll have been at the club for three years by then so if we hang onto him and he doesn't measure up in 2019 his value will be approaching zero.
Better to play him and see what he's made of.
But this is where our list management in the past has failed us.
i.e. in 2019, we might be looking at the following decision.
Harry Mckay
vs
Alex Silvagni
vs
Sam Rowe
vs
Levi Casboult
vs
Cam O'shea
vs
Aaron Mullet
vs
Matt Shaw
vs
Patrick Kerr
vs
Kade Simpson (looks evergreen for now, but for how long?)
vs
Matthew Lobbe
vs
Andrew Phillips
vs
Any other trades/free agents or draftees.
The list is actually quite lengthy and whilst I would be reluctant to move on too many, sometimes you move on whats better value.
For me, the only trade out that could cause someone to part with something, is Levi Casboult. Now, I know hes not worth blah blah blah, but if Zach Tuohy can get us a first rounder, you never know what Casboult can get.
Also, I wouldnt be chopping Mckay without looking at the opportunity cost.
Re: The Quick Fix - cookie2 - 04-18-2018
The pure logistics of list management will mean SOS will have to start moving on some of his own in the near future.
Re: The Quick Fix - pew2 - 04-18-2018
one player who could get us good draft value is plowman, i would trade him for the right deal.To me has been flying under the radar (weitering and jones) taking all the heat but wat has he done that makes him so special,can any1 mention a game where LP dominated