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Re: The Brisbane Test - LP - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 03:59 AM)laj link Wrote:Waugh Smith was never a great on-field captain, always too rigid and narrow in his thinking and could never think outside the box.
Change Waugh to Smith and you've nailed it!
The current contrast between Smith and Root is there for all to see, if Joe Root had the Australian bowling line up to captain we'd be in all sorts of sh1te!
Re: The Brisbane Test - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-28-2017
Stokes at the airport but bound for a holiday in NZ...just close enough to fly in as a messiah when England go 2-0...
Re: The Brisbane Test - bratblue - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 07:36 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Stokes at the airport but bound for a holiday in NZ...just close enough to fly in as a messiah when England go 2-0...
The boy's will be drooling for the second sledging opportunity.
Re: The Brisbane Test - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 07:50 AM)bratblue link Wrote:The boy's will be drooling for the second sledging opportunity.
Stokes is one Pom who seems to fire up when the heat is on....had to be impressed in past series when Johnson was bowling well and a young Stokes stood up
to him. A lot of players mentally disintegrate but Stokes is more the type who wants to punch on....pardon the pun.
Broad is another who seems to be able to handle everything thrown at him and still perform...
I'd be targeting Root, Anderson and Bairstow....Anderson looks like he over the tour already and wouldnt need much encouraging to go home...
Root is a young bloke and like Cook given the captains job very early in their career...its finished Cook and I reckon Root is on slow simmer to break as well....
Re: The Brisbane Test - malo - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 03:59 AM)laj link Wrote:Ponting, Hughes and Yallop a better captain than Smith? Are you kidding? They we awful.
Seriously?......Ponting single handidly regrouped a World Cup side that lost their star bowler (Warne) on the eve of the 2003 World Cup due to an act of stupidity & got them to a World Cup victory. He also took them to wins against the strongest side in the world (SAF) in their own country in the era right after losing Warne, Magrath, Langer, Haydon from the side, with a bowling attack of Johnson, Siddle & Hilfy......He wasn't Mark Taylor, but he was certainly better than Smith, and probably equal to Waugh (who never had any challenges really).
Re: The Brisbane Test - flyboy77 - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 09:19 PM)malo link Wrote:Seriously?......Ponting single handidly regrouped a World Cup side that lost their star bowler (Warne) on the eve of the 2003 World Cup due to an act of stupidity & got them to a World Cup victory. He also took them to wins against the strongest side in the world (SAF) in their own country in the era right after losing Warne, Magrath, Langer, Haydon from the side, with a bowling attack of Johnson, Siddle & Hilfy......He wasn't Mark Taylor, but he was certainly better than Smith, and probably equal to Waugh (who never had any challenges really).
I'd agree with that.
Smith is a hopeless Captain, worst that I can remember.
Leading by example is great, but there must be more....
That said, at the time of his appointment there weren't many other options!
Re: The Brisbane Test - DJC - 11-28-2017
(11-28-2017, 09:19 PM)malo link Wrote:Seriously?......Ponting single handidly regrouped a World Cup side that lost their star bowler (Warne) on the eve of the 2003 World Cup due to an act of stupidity & got them to a World Cup victory. He also took them to wins against the strongest side in the world (SAF) in their own country in the era right after losing Warne, Magrath, Langer, Haydon from the side, with a bowling attack of Johnson, Siddle & Hilfy......He wasn't Mark Taylor, but he was certainly better than Smith, and probably equal to Waugh (who never had any challenges really).
I reckon Ponting is a long way ahead of Smith. The latter doesn't seem able to think on his feet and has a formulaic approach to captaincy.
Re: The Brisbane Test - LP - 11-29-2017
(11-28-2017, 09:50 PM)DJC link Wrote:I reckon Ponting is a long way ahead of Smith. The latter doesn't seem able to think on his feet and has a formulaic approach to captaincy.
We are on the same page.
When I watch Smith I get the feeling that Lehmann is captain and Smith is working off his notes, which he left in the locker room and cannot remember!
Things change after a drinks break, lunch or tea, but in between it's like watching a parrot speak and repeat the same slight mispronunciation over and over again. Things just aren't quite right and the tweak often comes too late, after everybody has walked away!
Re: The Brisbane Test - laj - 11-29-2017
(11-28-2017, 09:50 PM)DJC link Wrote:I reckon Ponting is a long way ahead of Smith. The latter doesn't seem able to think on his feet and has a formulaic approach to captaincy.
Can't go with you there. Ponting captaincy was plain awful at times. Used to just shake my head at times. He's lucky to be ahead of anyone other than Hughes and Yallop. We saw the difference soon as Clarke became captain. Smith at least seems solid tactically although not in the class of Taylor and Clarke, but certainly well ahead of Ponting.
Re: The Brisbane Test - Thryleon - 11-29-2017
Captaincy is difficult to quantify, and pointing to results simply ignores too much to do with it.