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Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 07:09 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Oh contraire ze Brettie. The game is enormously important, in many respects... maybe not re finals, but certainly in every other way. We're building a culture which certainly seems to put team first. I do take your point but think that perhaps last week, in front of his home/family, was a really fitting way for Den Den to bow out.
I think that's right.
Bolton has stated that the team is selected on form and to go back on that would send the wrong message. There is room for sentimentality at AFL level, but only when it serves the club's interests.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - shadesy - 08-18-2017
I was at the game last week and they let Dennis lead the team off and they clapped him and he waved to those around him. I thought it was odd, but thought well maybe a final game at home. Turns out he probably knew that was it.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - blue4life - 08-18-2017
If we'd played him again this week then we aren't fair dinkum.
I'm tipping that Denis is fine with it.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - cookie2 - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 08:36 AM)blue4life link Wrote:If we'd played him again this week then we aren't fair dinkum.
I'm tipping that Denis is fine with it.
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Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 07:07 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Have we ever had an official farewell game for a player?
I thought this was the new Carlton ? With Lactobacillus Acidophilus Bolton in charge (hereafter referred to as LAB), I thought all the bad culture was being replaced with good ?
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:33 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I thought this was the new Carlton ? With Lactobacillus Acidophilus Bolton in charge (hereafter referred to as LAB), I thought all the bad culture was being replaced with good ?
What is the point of that post?
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:What is the point of that post?
As part of a new, better culture, it might be a good thing to give long standing, dedicated club stalwarts even a half-arsed farewell game.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:41 AM)PaulP link Wrote:As part of a new, better culture, it might be a good thing to give long standing, dedicated club stalwarts even a half-arsed farewell game.
Even if that goes against the culture you are trying to build in which you reward players with effort and don't give games away.
Who is to say that Army's last couple of weeks were his farewell games?
Who is to say that Army wanted a farewell game?
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - PaulP - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 09:52 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Even if that goes against the culture you are trying to build in which you reward players with effort and don't give games away.
Who is to say that Army's last couple of weeks were his farewell games?
Who is to say that Army wanted a farewell game?
If you read the match reports of the various VFL games, you will note that senior players have played well and being overlooked for younger players.
I don't know Army's private thoughts, but neither does anyone else. How do you know he's not p1ssed about missing out ?
When Fisher was left on 99 games, when Houlihan was sub in his 200th, they were examples of bad culture - it didn't cross anyone's mind that maybe they were in those positions precisely because the club didn't want to gift games.
Re: Rd 22: Pre Game Peril: Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 08-18-2017
(08-18-2017, 10:03 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If you read the match reports of the various VFL games, you will note that senior players have played well and being overlooked for younger players.
I don't know Army's private thoughts, but neither does anyone else. How do you know he's not p1ssed about missing out ?
When Fisher was left on 99 games, when Houlihan was sub in his 200th, they were examples of bad culture - it didn't cross anyone's mind that maybe they were in those positions precisely because the club didn't want to gift games.
You have a bug up your butt about something. We get it.
1. Senior players playing well need to be playing to instructions....and need to be doing so for an extended amount of time. Without knowing the instructions, or the criteria put on them, you can't say they were overlooked.
2. You don't know, but you take a pot shot anyway.
3. Some people were upset about Fish and/or Houlihan, doesn't mean everyone was, nor does that have anything to do with whats happening now.