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Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - mina1 - 07-31-2016
Simple we need 2 mids that can run / pace spread and I think we are to slow , how many sides this yr have carved us up with there pace for easy goals .
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - MilkIt - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 04:09 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boekhorst would be on my delist list......was running towards a contested ball and Kaidan Brand from Hawthorn was the player coming the other way and Boekhorst put the anchors out
and pulled up......not good enough and not for the 1st time he has done that either.....players like this wont take us far and he has to go IMO...
If AFL Player Ratings are anything to go by, he was our best. ???
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Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - chalkybill - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 01:33 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Great stuff Tassy Devil.
Agree with another poster that Weitering looks timid. Seems to be relying on talent and judgement at the minute with less than required intent. Of recent times the only time I've seen him really seen him seem to enjoy his footy was when he was given the forward line gig.
Some weeks ago I was severely criticized when I said that Weitering 'dropped his head' a few times. Now his timidity is showing out further and others are seeing it.
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Robblues - 07-31-2016
Maybe tired after a long season, but doesn't seem the same confidence and surety at times. Hard to judge in the pressure zone where he is. A lot to ask off a first year player , still glad we have him
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 04:47 AM)Raydan link Wrote:I was surprised by how willing BB was to get into the hard stuff, I didn't see him shirk an issue (mind you I was standing on the hill on the 50m line and struggled with the other side of the ground). Plenty to delist before Boekhurst though.
After watching the NB's there sure is plenty to delist...the Werribee/Nth team had way more talent, if you have rubbish in the twos you will never ever generate enough competition for spots and build depth.
We just move deckchairs each week and rely on Cripps, Simpson, Docherty etc to cover for all these duds we have acquired....
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 05:11 AM)MilkIt link Wrote:If AFL Player Ratings are anything to go by, he was our best. ???
Quite clearly they're not - some bizarre rankings in that lot ???
I'd put Boekhorst in our best ten players. I didn't see him shirk a contest and thought his attack on the ball was good. He does need to improve and hit the scoreboard more if he is going to be a regular player.
And, while I think of it, Docherty had a dirty day by his lofty standards but did Sumner, Plowman, Phillips and Boekhorst play better? I don't think so!
McEvoy had four hitouts to advantage, seven disposals and kicked a goal and he's rated third. What garbage!
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - dodge - 07-31-2016
A few posts suggesting if this and that happened then there is a different result.
It's sliding doors. We have no idea what happens if a few of our ifs land (eg goals kicked/Docherty stuff up), because from the that point on the game would be different. Hawthorn would say the same - they missed sitters and stuffed up as well.
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - flyboy77 - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 07:30 AM)DJC link Wrote:Quite clearly they're not - some bizarre rankings in that lot ???
I'd put Boekhorst in our best ten players. I didn't see him shirk a contest and thought his attack on the ball was good. He does need to improve and hit the scoreboard more if he is going to be a regular player.
And, while I think of it, Docherty had a dirty day by his lofty standards but did Sumner, Plowman, Phillips and Boekhorst play better? I don't think so!
McEvoy had four hitouts to advantage, seven disposals and kicked a goal and he's rated third. What garbage!
Re Boekhurst, well we know he can do it - hit the scoreboard. Just need the team to control the more ans use it better, collectively.
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - sandsmere - 07-31-2016
Thanks Raydan. Bloody good report.
I don't think Weitering is timid, but I think his body is pretty sore. He has copped a few hard ones and his body is not fully developed yet.
He needs a couple of weeks off.
Agree re the mids too. We need some bigger bodies in there. Steele and Crouch would be a start.
Also need a KPF.
Jack and Charlie will be good but aren't big enough to be the main target for the next 10+ years.
Harry . . . . well we don't know. But he is still very young, underdeveloped and will need a couple of seasons to get anywhere near his top if he does make it.
Afterall, we are in the early stage of a major overhaul which is going to take longer than a lot of posters on here realize.
Re: Rd 19: Post Game Intensive Analysis: Carlton vs Hawthorn - Baggers - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 06:53 AM)Robblues link Wrote:Maybe tired after a long season, but doesn't seem the same confidence and surety at times. Hard to judge in the pressure zone where he is. A lot to ask off a first year player , still glad we have him
Also wrapped to have him but although he might have a wise head on young shoulders, he's still a kid with a young man's emotions (although he may seem mature beyond his years) and a young body. When he went forward recently and kicked his second goal his face lit up like a Christmas tree - reward for effort, and he needs a little more of this (reward for effort). Yes, he's going to have to learn to play through and with hurt but let's not do to him what we did to Kreuz.