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Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 07-07-2016
Armfield, Tutt, Buckley, Graham in for Bryne.
Extended bench is: Armfield, Buckley, Everitt, Graham, Sumner, Tutt, Walker.
Two rucks again. Our rucks are dead useless when they are off the ball. Krezuer goes from shite man when he shares ruck duties to superman when he gets to ruck on his own. We play best when we have one ruck and Casboult as both benefit immensely. Supporters see it but the club doesn't. Prefer one ruck and two key forwards rather than two rucks and one key forward trying to handle the weight of the opposition defence. Has to be better balance.
How Everitt gets to play before Jaksch right now is a mystery.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - cookie2 - 07-07-2016
Looks like one of Walker and Everitt or possibly both will be left out. Can't say I'm surprised.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - kruddler - 07-07-2016
(07-06-2016, 12:59 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:That's not even close to the same thing. You're much better than that kruddler.
Without doing a massive analysis I'd wager we scored more with two forwards but we may have also conceded more as well and that we are trying to get the balance right.
Its not trying to be the same thing.
It's showing that 2 things that might seem the same can not be realted at all.
So everitt no longer counts as a key forward.
Silvagni gave us more of an option as a full forward type than Jones did.
White offered us more as a leading forward than Jones has.
By all means, bring Jones in....but let me just say 'i told you so' now to save time later. He is NOT the answer.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - Gointocarlton - 07-07-2016
(07-07-2016, 09:09 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Looks like one of Walker and Everitt or possibly both will be left out. Can't say I'm surprised.Walker kicked 3 two weeks in a row prior to last week so could get a reprieve. Everitt is disapointing because he can kick straight but he has struck a blow in weeks (since the Geelong game) so he must go and find form inthe 2s. As many have said, I wanted to see Jones or KJ in but alas. Army in is a must, provides speed, grunt and effort. Graham will probably get a gig because of his form in the 2s but he is not the answer as he is too slow and we need more speed. Could be that Sumner will also be asked to have a spell in the 2s which means the final bench is:
Walker Army (Buckley or Tutt) Graham
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 07-07-2016
(07-07-2016, 09:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Its not trying to be the same thing.
It's showing that 2 things that might seem the same can not be realted at all.
So everitt no longer counts as a key forward.
Silvagni gave us more of an option as a full forward type than Jones did.
White offered us more as a leading forward than Jones has.
By all means, bring Jones in....but let me just say 'i told you so' now to save time later. He is NOT the answer.
Never be the answer in a fit but takes a man and keeps the opposition occupied spreading the defence a little more. Gives both a key forwards a better chance then of hitting the scoreboard, which happened. At least Jones hit the scoreboard and provided a contest. Did give something, or a least something better than he's given previously. Much better than having two ruckmen, both who are useless once off the ball. We were definitely a better side with two key forwards
My preference is for Jaksch as he is continually hitting the scoreboard in the VFL and is the one forward that will lead. Whether he'll be an answer one doesn't know but at least he's young and surely worth a go ahead of Everitt. I lived with Everitt while he was kicking goals but once they dried up there's nothing more to him. In the end we hope McKay is the answer but that's a while off so we use what we have.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - crashlander - 07-07-2016
Carlton
B: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Zach Tuohy.
HB: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Sam Docherty.
C: Jed Lamb, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow.
HF: Matthew Wright, Simon White, Dale Thomas.
F: Andrew Phillips, Levi Casboult, Jack Silvagni.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Kerridge, Bryce Gibbs.
Int: Dennis Armfield, Dylan Buckley, Andrejs Everitt, Nick Graham, Liam Sumner, Jason Tutt, Andrew Walker
I guess we've gone 'small' with the forecast looking pretty wet for Sunday. I think our forward line is not looking strong.
Adelaide Crows
B: Kyle Cheney, Daniel Talia, Jake Lever.
HB: Rory Laird, Kyle Hartigan, Brodie Smith.
C: David Mackay, Scott Thompson, Rory Sloane.
HF: Richard Douglas, Tom Lynch, Charlie Cameron.
F: Josh Jenkins, Taylor Walker, Eddie Betts.
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Brad Crouch, Matt Crouch.
Int: Paul Seedsman, Rory Atkins, Wayne Milera, Jarryd Lyons, Mitch McGovern, Ricky Henderson, Jake Kelly
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - RiverRat - 07-07-2016
(07-07-2016, 08:38 AM)laj link Wrote:Two rucks again. Our rucks are dead useless when they are off the ball. Krezuer goes from crape man when he shares ruck duties to superman when he gets to ruck on his own. We play best when we have one ruck and Casboult as both benefit immensely. Supporters see it but the club doesn't. I suspect the club sees it too but wants to play Phillips because they are looking to develop him for the future. Also, I don't think Levi has gone rucking since he 'broke' his leg.
How Everitt gets to play before Jaksch right now is a mystery. The solution to that mystery seems pretty obvious.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - flyboy77 - 07-07-2016
(07-07-2016, 09:26 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Walker kicked 3 two weeks in a row prior to last week so could get a reprieve. Everitt is disapointing because he can kick straight but he has struck a blow in weeks (since the Geelong game) so he must go and find form inthe 2s. As many have said, I wanted to see Jones or KJ in but alas. Army in is a must, provides speed, grunt and effort. Graham will probably get a gig because of his form in the 2s but he is not the answer as he is too slow and we need more speed. Could be that Sumner will also be asked to have a spell in the 2s which means the final bench is:
Walker Army (Buckley or Tutt) Graham
Getting our hands on the pill is more important than leg speed.
We have to address why we are getting totally smashed at centre bounces and stoppages in general - it used to be our strength.
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - mina1 - 07-08-2016
brisbane lions smashed us in the middle and many weeks later we are still trying to address it.Who is the ruck/ midfield coach?
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Premonitions: Carlton vs Adelaide - PaulP - 07-08-2016
(07-08-2016, 04:36 AM)mina1 link Wrote:brisbane lions smashed us in the middle and many weeks later we are still trying to address it.Who is the ruck/ midfield coach?
Stoppages - John Barker
Midfield - Tim Clarke
Ruck - Mathew Capuano